PEB Code V1, V2, V3, V4 /

Travelerusa40

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This might be past due, but it could help others performing searches for this topic in the future.

I received this document from the WTB Schofield Barracks OMBUDSMAN who got it from someone in the JBLM PEB. I'll upload it now.
Thank you so much. I have been told some many different things even by my MEB JAG. This is the most accuratre and detailed definition of the V Codes.
 

Jason Perry

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Being deployed impacted me based on what I saw and what I encountered but did not want to mention any of my activities while in theater so I just kept quite and came home. However, 9 months later being at home my world changed and I was diagnosed with PTSD with Major Depression GAF: 45. I was given an LOD saying CONUS PTSD being diagnosed by the VA. I am afraid to answer any questions about my my deployemnt. I become triggered physically and mentally at the drop of a dime which becomes real embarassing causing me to further shut down. My conditon is real and becomes very clear when doctors try to help me. I "do have" supporting testing documentation from the results of the VA Syc Evaluation testing positive for Sever PTSD and Major Depression.
Sounds to me like this is the reason you have the diagnosis, the unfit finding, and the rating. The remaining issue is the combat related nature of the PTSD.

This is by a VA Chief Psychologist and then by a two Staff Physiatrist during different periods. All agree that during my deployment an event happened that warrented the diagnosis of Severe PTSD with Major Depression, in which, I am not cabable of talking about in detail. I still have several PTSD symptoms. I was deployed OEF TS /SCI direct ODA SF combat support mission within the AOR. The MEB Physiatrist signed my NARSUM as PTSD being a referred condition and so did the PEB. I have a total of 6 conditons including which include PTSD. Currenttly, the PEB forwarded my file to the VA for ratings with a memo that stated V4 Code for PTSD?
Without knowing all of the details, my best estimation is that the lack of a statement or details about the combat related nature is the root of the problem. I do understand that you may not want to relive or discuss any of the circumstances that are your stressors. Under VA rules, this is likely not a problem (and hence the rating and diagnosis). However, under DoD rules, I think this is the issue. I am not saying this is right, legal, or should be required of you. But, it seems to me that this is the problem and may work to deny you rightful compensation and tax benefits if you do not provide information about your stressor. Easiest (in terms of accomplishment, not necessarily in terms of how it impacts you or causes you additional distress) is to provide details about the stressor(s). However, in the absence of that, you may be able to appeal. I don't know that this will be successful, though. Unfortunately, you are in a very difficult position from what I can tell.

I hope all goes your way.
 

Travelerusa40

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#23
How do I prove Combat Related? I have no source documentation for the events except my orders that I was assinged to a SF Mission and only my statement (which can not be in detail) and the VA diagnosis and their Syc Evaluation findings that "an Event did take place that impact me". What are your thoughts? Should I just should not leave it alone?
 

Chris Conn

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How do I prove Combat Related? I have no source documentation for the events except my orders that I was assinged to a SF Mission and only my statement (which can not be in detail) and the VA diagnosis and their Syc Evaluation findings that "an Event did take place that impact me". What are your thoughts? Should I just should not leave it alone?
I'm guessing you are still in, and received either your DA199, the PEB's unfit memo to the VA requesting proposed ratings, or the VA's proposed ratings packet?

If you are already out maybe applying for Combat Related Special Compensation (CRSC) would help your case for proving it was combat related.

Again this is according to DFAS's CRSC, so this square peg might not quite fit into the round hole if you are trying to prove to the Army while you're still in that the condition is combat related, but this is what DFAS suggests will prove a condition is combat related:

"Disabilities that may be considered combat related include injuries incurred as a direct result of:
  • Armed Conflict
  • Hazardous Duty
  • An Instrumentality of War
  • Simulated War
  • Retirement orders
  • 20-year letter or statement of service (for reservists)
  • Relevant pages in your VA or service medical record
  • VA ratings
  • Purple Heart award citations
  • Retirement Form DD214"
here are the links
http://www.dfas.mil/retiredmilitary/disability/crsc.html
http://www.dfas.mil/retiredmilitary/disability/applyforcrsc.html
 

A99

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Any Feed back woud be helpful.

I have 6 service related Referred Conditions (back w/ bilateral sciatica, R-hip Replacement, R-Knee Pending Replacement on seperation, L-Knee OA, and PTSD). I am just pending my VA rartings within the IDES system. The VA has diagnosed me with PTSD with Sever Depression and said my condition was "severe" during the VA rating exam and I am currently on medications for this and was also a reason why my command recommended "do not retain". However, the PEB sent the conditions to the PEB with my PTSD having a "V4" code Permanent and Stable (see below). Does that mean I will not get 50% or any rating as a percentage for my PTSD? It appears they want to give me some type of seperation pay for my PTSD conditon. My other conditions should be over 30% or higher and will most likely be given a VA Rating for a percentage of disability.

Question? Will my PTSD even be ratable by the VA if the PEB attached the "V4 code" to my PTSD service connected condition? I have 15 years active and 21 years total time in service with a 20 year Reserve Letter. I have been AGR since 2007, but on ADOS or Active Duties orders since 2003.
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3d. Permanent and stable.

Section V
10 USC 1206).
v1. The disability disposition is not based on disease or injury incurred in the line of duty in combat with an enemy of the United States and as a direct result of armed conflict or caused by an instrumentality of war and incurred in the line of duty during a period of war (5 USC 8332, 3502, and 6303). (This
determination is made for all compensable cases but pertains to‘potential benefits for
disability retirees employed under Federa! Civil Service.)

v2. Evidence of record reflects the Soldier was not a member or obligated to become a member of an armed force or Reserve thereof, or the NOAA or the USPHS on 24 September 1975.

v3. The disability did not result from a combat—related injury under the provisions of 26 USC 104 or 10 USC 10216.

v4. The disability severance pay was not awarded for disability incurred in a combat zone or incurred while performing combat—related operations as designated by the Secretary of Defense (10 USC 1212).

As I read this, if V1/V3 states "yes" on the DA199 then are saying injury did happen in combat and therefore a result of it? Thanks!!
 

PSYOP Warrior

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I'm so confused. I was blown up 3 times - 1 LOC, spent time in the hospital before being flown home to WTB, and then received 2 Purple Hearts and CAB - meaning happened in combat. So I read the file that is sent for ratings and the V Codes and all say that none of it was combat related compared to the PDF file from the ombudsman that someone posted here. Someone please advise.

1. The Physical Evaluation Board (PEB) found (My Name), (SSN), physically unfit to continue military service for the following PEB referred unfitting conditions:

a. Cervical spine strain with herniated cervical disc and subjective radiculopathy (MEB Dx 1) (V1-Yes; V3-Yes; V4-Yes)
b. Posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) (MEB Dx 2) (V1-Yes; V3-Yes; V4-Yes)
c. Migraine without aura (MEB Dx 3) (V1-Yes; V3-Yes; V4-Yes)

2. Please provide a disability rating percentage (with rationale) to this PEB Administration for all referred and claimed conditions.
 

eagleone

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I'm so confused. I was blown up 3 times - 1 LOC, spent time in the hospital before being flown home to WTB, and then received 2 Purple Hearts and CAB - meaning happened in combat. So I read the file that is sent for ratings and the V Codes and all say that none of it was combat related compared to the PDF file from the ombudsman that someone posted here. Someone please advise.

1. The Physical Evaluation Board (PEB) found (My Name), (SSN), physically unfit to continue military service for the following PEB referred unfitting conditions:

a.Cervical spine strain with herniated cervical disc and subjective radiculopathy (MEB Dx 1) (V1-Yes; V3-Yes; V4-Yes)
b.Posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) (MEB Dx 2) (V1-Yes; V3-Yes; V4-Yes)
c.Migraine without aura (MEB Dx 3) (V1-Yes; V3-Yes; V4-Yes)

2. Please provide a disability rating percentage (with rationale) to this PEB Administration for all referred and claimed conditions.
"yes" is good. There is no confusion. Yes = Combat related. The PDF is a typist's guidence. It is poorly written. The typical bubba is combat-related "No" and they wrote the PDF for the typical bubba.
 

PSYOP Warrior

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thanks for the clarification. It is very poorly written and highly unacurate. I sent it to my PEBLO and asked why are all my unfitting conditions all non combat related and she said, "the pdf is crap and having all "yes" for your V's is good b/c it means combat related injury. Having "no" means it was done state side, not in combat, or in a combat zone and like tripping over a rock and injuring yourself b/c someones PT Belt blinded you." So that .PDF needs to be taken down and a new one put up that actually makes sense. Thanks eagleone for the double clarification.
 

eagleone

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thanks for the clarification. It is very poorly written and highly unacurate. I sent it to my PEBLO and asked why are all my unfitting conditions all non combat related and she said, "the pdf is crap and having all "yes" for your V's is good b/c it means combat related injury. Having "no" means it was done state side, not in combat, or in a combat zone and like tripping over a rock and injuring yourself b/c someones PT Belt blinded you." So that .PDF needs to be taken down and a new one put up that actually makes sense. Thanks eagleone for the double clarification.
The PDF clearifies the question "What does V1,V2... mean?" It just screws up the answer...
 

Travelerusa40

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#31
No, the PEB is not telling the VA how to rate you. The PEB has to wait for the VA to supply the ratings it will apply to your unfitting conditions. The PEB is just making the required findings about the circumstances of the incurrence of your condition(s). After they get the ratings back, the impact of the "V" codes will then be apparent. If you are at least 30% for all conditions, you will be retired, with what looks like combat related findings, making the pay non-taxable and further making you most likely eligible for CRSC.
Jason, my DA 199 stated PTSD V-4 and VA rated it 100% purposed. I am also 100% DoD. However, when I got my retirement orders it Stated "Disability resulted from a combat related injury as defiend in 26 USC 104: "NO". Should this be "YES"? I have been retired since June of 2013 and receiving retired pay but is has not been tax free.

Should I contacat the Army Personnel Branch who published my orders and tell them to correct so DFAS can back pay me for not taxing the tax out? Any thoughts?
 

mikeh7172

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#32
Damn PT belt blindedness will get you every time :) Thank God I was attached to the Marines at Leatherneck, PT belts were outlawed there.
 

mikeh7172

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Oh yeah and thanks for this thread it answered almost all my questions. I pretty much got screwed with one of my conditions then. It was aggravated in a Combat zone from enemy acitons but they said the onset was in '94 during PT. They pretty much threw out any of my current doctors notes and I'm still wating for a Neurosurgeon referral. At Least 3 of my 13 conditions were all Yes's.
 

GUTS

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I know its been a minute that we've had this discussion. But has anyone ever received a No under V Ratings in the unfit memo but the 199 said yes it was combat related?
 

GUTS

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I know its been a minute that we've had this discussion. But has anyone ever received a No under V Ratings in the unfit memo but the 199 said yes it was combat related?