Physical Evaluation Board System Overview

An overview of the Physical Disability Evaluation System, including the MEB and PEB. Also, important decisions at each stage of the PDES, benefits, continuation on active duty/active reserve ( COAD / COAR ), the eight year rule, and more.

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This post, like this site, is a work in progress. I realized recently that even though all the information on the Physical Disability Evaluation System (PDES) can be found here, first time visitors probably need a guide to understand what is going on with their case. I will be posting a more comprehensive "Guide" in the near future. But for now, I want to put out this post to help newcomers and members alike understand how to use this site. First, in the Physical Disability Evaluation System Overview Forum, you can find some basic overview/information papers on understanding the process. The updated "Guide" that I will publish will eventually replace the info papers found there. But for now, you can get a grasp of the process. I...
This thread is for discussing everything related to fitness and unfitness in the PDES.
CRSC questions, new CRSC information, and requests for CRSC estimates should be posted as a new thread in the CRSC Forum. This is the link to the CRSC Forum —-> Combat Related Special Compensation (CRSC) Ron
A copy of Mike Parker's Powerpoint presentation to the MOAA's Wounded Warrior Forum. It includes the entire brief with back-up slides containing detailed explanations.
I have an important advisory and issue of great importance for Air Force Reserve Component Members (Air Reserve and Air National Guard members). A few weeks back a colleague of mine called me and asked whether I had heard of ARC/ANG members being processed through the Legacy Disability Evaluation System (LDES). My friend shared a story of a client who was an AF Reserve member who was referred to the MEB and then the PEB notified his client that he was being processed by the PEB as an LDES case. The client had a current VA rating that was higher than the PEB decision. I was asked what I thought of this and I said that this made no sense and seemed patently illegal. I thought this was just an error or an aberration- until the next day...
The question on most of our minds is this: How long is it all going to take? This is an attempt to answer that question, but it's going to take all of us to do it. The idea is to give a very detailed account of the timeline of each person's case. It's one thing to say "in February I was tumpy tumpy" but there's a world of difference and two pay periods between the beginning of the month and end of it. Somwhere there's the theory if the sample population (ours here) is large enough, it comes to represent the whole (all military members going through this). If there are enough people who take notes and are good at remembering dates, or do like I do and keep a monthly planner you can keep notes in, then it would go a long way to...
This thread is dedicated to special issues regarding the Temporary Disabled Retired List.
Welcome again, everyone (well, as of now I am the only one registered here, but this is for all the future members). As I explained in the anouncement, I have created this site to provide US Military Servicemembers information about the MEB / PEB proccess. This is intended to be a one stop information resource center and discussion board. This is my first message board/website, so please bear with me as I learn more about this board's software and how to improve the user experience. Please feel free to offer suggestions. I know I won't be able to please everyone, but I will listen to input. Well, I hope this Board is helpful to the Servicemembers going through the PDES. I wish everyone the best of luck.
So, you are starting in the military disability process....you probably feel like the characters above. Let me point out several pointers and common errors that impact folks in getting to a favorable outcome. 1) Make an honest and fair evaluation of your situation and your goals as early as possible- then fight for your desired outcome. I have stated this countless times. One of the best things you can do to get the outcome you desire is to decide as early as possible what your desired outcome is. I have come across many cases where the member gets a bad outcome because they have "waffled" on what they want. For example, I have seen many cases where a member really wants to be found fit and continue their career. So, at the MEB...
Mind you these are all referenced to the Army, some may cross over to the other services those of you out there please post them on this discussion too! Thanks all!! Legacy-Old MEB/PEB process. IDES-Integrated Disability Evaluation System; new MEB/PEB process. DoD-means any military service/encompasses all. MEB-Medical Evaluation Board. PEB-Physical Evaluation Board. MMRB-MOS/Medical Retention Board. NARSUM-Narrative Summary. IPEB- Informal Physical Evaluation Board. FPEB-Formal Physical Evaluation Board. IPR –Independent Physical Review (Same as IMR). IMR-Independent Medical Review (Same as IPR). PDBR-Physical Disability Board of Review, for those out of the service already that need to correct a...
This post contains a slide covering timelines (the slide is from the Army, but applies to all services): http://www.pebforum.com/army-discussion/236-slide-army-pdes-elements-timeline.html
I was recently contacted by a staff member from the DoD Recovering Warrior Task Force. There is a panel discussion that they are holding in the Crystal City (Arlington), VA on Dec. 5, and they are looking for interested members going through the IDES. I was asked to post this announcement (which sounds like a good opportunity for people to have their concerns heard): The DoD Recovering Warrior Task Force (RWTF) is seeking Wounded, Ill, or Injured Service members who are in the Integrated Disability System Evaluation System (IDES) process, preparing for transition to civilian life, and willing to participate in a panel discussion. The RWTF was established by Congress in 2010 to provide DoD with advice and recommendations on...
This attachment contains the Federal Law concerning US military disability retirement. Please see the Library link to see the latest updates from Jan. 2008 in this law.
This info paper was published by the US Army Physical Disability Agency. A good starting point for a general understanding of the process.
Hi, so much great information on this forum! Here’s my question. I am AGR with 18 years 2 months of Federal Active Service and an additional 6 years of Reserve service combined totaling just over 24 years. 5y 11 USCGR, 1m m-day ARNG, 18y 2m AGR ARNG. I was informed by my medical case manager that if my current temp profile remains permanent that I will be referred to MEB in February 2023 once my temp profile expires. So here’s the question, can I make it to 20 AFS with 1 year, 7 months, and 10 days left to hit 20 AFS? Any thoughts and advice would be appreciated.
Military Medical Retirement Pay question I have a question based on the math of PDRL/TDRL. The way [DFAS](https://www.dfas.mil/retiredmilitary/disability/disability/) explains the Disability payments in Method A and Method B is a little confusing. Method A: Retirement pay is based off Disabilty percentage or years of active service, whichever is more beneficial. Please let me know that I am understanding this right. Example, say I am 13 years in as an E-7 on Blended Retirement (BRS) with a DOD Disability of 30% and Combined Disabilty Rating (CDR) of 50% (with the VA math being whatever it is to get a CDR of 50%), Base pay = $4,685 Method A Math: 50% Disability = 50% of base pay. BASEPAY \*50% = $2342.5/Month Method B Math...
Need help with the process because my PEBLO and lawyer give me two different answers. I received my informal 199 back with 60%DOD, 100% VA Recommend Permanant medical retirement. I am at 16 years, 5 months of active service. I wanted to put in for COAD and already have everything signed and ready to submit. My lawyer told me I can't request COAD unless I exhaust all appeals. At this point, I don't disagree with the fact that I am unfit (had pulmonary embolism requiring lifelong anticoagulants) however; I don't want to drag this out for another 8 months. Additionally, my lawyer was very blunt to let me know that my chances of COAD are not great. He said that usually COAD gets approved for 1-2 years. In my case, I am asking for...
Hi everyone. I am hoping I can get some assistance and advice on MEB and if I can request my PCM to start one. I was recently diagnosed with Meniere's Disease. Had blood work and MRI done to ruled out any other problem. My question is: 1- Can a MEB be initiated in Korea? Currently doing a one year remote tour. I have 8 months left. 2- I've have struggling at work (stress, dizzines, nausea, tinnitus) and I feel extremely bad my coworkers are picking up my slack. Is it wise to ask my PCM to initiate a MEB? I am AD USAF with nine years in. Any advice or information will be greatly appreciated.
I’m just curious to know more info about the MED/PEB Board process.. Little background: back in September i was diagnosed with an autoimmune disorder, and I’ve been undergoing treatment for it thus far..I know once everything started my specialist from Naval Hospital Bremeberton said that I’d be going limdu at least 6 months until we can get the treatment right, and then we’ll go from there. My main question is, if I want to initiate it sooner, like January time frame, could I just ask my PCM? Then if he’s able to, about how long would it take to get my rating and decision? I’m a PS so I already know what to do after the TDRL/PDRL message comes out, if they decide to that.
I am currently serving in the Army National Guard (approx. 2 years). 5 months ago, I was diagnosed and treated for testicular cancer. The treatment was successful in regard to cancer removal. However, there is lasting pain and effects from the surgery, both psychological and physical. I have no family history of cancer or anything of this nature. My question is, if I can even get my cancer service related, what would be my best route of initiating and receiving a medical retirement from the Army National Guard? Either way, I am unfit for service and need a discharge, but I would like to do so while receiving compensation and benefits. Any advice would be much appreciated.
Branch : army years of service: 4 mental health medboard Got arrested a year ago for property damage and misdemeanor assault charge , facing medboard . if my program was to be suspended how will the med play out ? would they just separate me out and stop the medboard? first time offender for an impulse charge , offered a program and in april all my charges will be dropped. just overthinking if my program gets suspended for any reason
This might sound crazy but I feel like I could have finished my 20 years and gotten my real retirement. Is it possible to rejoin the military if I was medically retired?
Have been diagnosed with meineres disease, migraines, obstructive sleep apnea, hip disorder, depression, and insomnia. Just looking to see if anyone had had similar diagnoses that had gone through process and what percentage disability.
Hi! Potentially about to go through a unique that I could use some perspective on. I have over 10 years in service with about 5 years as an officer, the rest were enlisted. All guidance regarding retirements for officers states the member has to have 10 years as an officer or waiverable to 8. I am worried that if I am medically retired my retirement pay will be based off my last held enlisted rank, which will be a significant drop. Assuming I am medically retired will I maintain the retirement pay of O3E or will it revert to E6? Seeing as I am not resigning my commission by choice its hard to find a clear answer. Any hard references would be very helpful!
Hi. Going through beginning stages of a medboard. NARSUM, commanders statement, etc. sent to AFPC. AFPC came back saying I require additional time and treatment before disposition. Placed on continuation of care for 3 months. Kept code 37 and add a form 469. Then return everything in February. Anyone gone through this? Board is for ulcerative colitis which is a lifetime thing so I really don’t understand.
Thank you to anyone who reads this post and offers any information that might guide me as my command doesn't know much about the process. I am a former Marine F-18 pilot who experienced a grand mal seizure while I was on active duty in 2016. Over the course of two years I attempted to fight the diagnosis of epilepsy and attain a flight waiver so that I could continue flying but after additional seizures and medical evidence, I left the service in 2018 after my commitment was up. I received my VA disability rating of 100%, 80% for epilepsy, during terminal leave. Once I began working as a civilian I realized how expensive healthcare was so I spoke with a prior service recruiter and have been filling a billet in the USMCR where I assist...
AD Air Force of 8 years. I just received my Commander's Impact Statement AF Form 1185. What my commander/shirt wrote was very vague. I am having difficulty with what I should write in the Airmen's acknowledgment section. I have narcolepsy type 2 w/o cataplexy and excessive daytime sleepiness, and currently taking Xywav. I work shift work and a very inconsistent schedule which affects my sleep schedule. Do I write how the irregular schedule is affecting my sleep? Or do I include the Excessive daytime sleepiness that causes sleep attacks 2-3 per day or 14-21 per week? I log all my sleep and naps, blood pressure, temperature, blood oxygen, and weight every day. Should I include that as well?
Hello, I have been in for 11 years without haven’t any issues in my performance in the army. Last year I was evaluated because I had put on my DHA that I take lamictal and I was evaluated. Now the med board has decided that I am unfit for duty, but it doesn’t make sense because the military the military therapist and my civilian therapist had stated that I’m a low risk patient. I even changed me meds. I didn’t agree with the board and now I have a hearing next year and I was wondering if anyone went through the same situation and what are my chances to stay in. I like serving and it will be unfortunate if they kick me out without reaching 20 years to receive pension. Any help is much appreciated, thank you.
I have 19 years 7 months, approved retirement date, retirement orders, and terminal lave beginning in 4 weeks. Today during my outprocessing SHPE separation exam the doc told me I as being med boarded. Is this a joke? At first I Lauged at him but now I'm worried! Could I be booted out before I reach 20? Can my retirement orders or terminal lave be canceled? Ugh!!! Things crazy
Hello all, Is there a template for buddy letters or what’s the correct way to do one ? Any format that is needed specifically? Thanks
I’ve been LLD and getting treated for multiple disc herniations, sciatica and spondylosis for about 5-6 months. I have been to pain management, physical therapy done acupuncture and also on nsaids and gabepentin. Nothing helps. It’s been pretty debilitating. I’m currently waiting to go Limdu for it the only problem is my PCM keeps telling me I need a specialist to initiate LIMDU. So I called the specialist who is the neurologist. He told me if nothing is working we are going to have to do steroid injections in your back. I explained to the neurologist that I wasn’t for the shots. He was being extremely pushy on it like a car salesman. He refused to initiate Limdu because I wouldn’t get shots in my back. He was using the injections as...
Good day, I am seeking information on what to expect for an air force MEB. Here's some back ground information. On 03 Dec 20, I began a process of lab work and procedures to finally come to the determination as of yesterday 13 Jan 21 that my diagnoses is Crohn's disease. I am in a unique situation, as that this diagnoses comes after I have already Final out'ed my current duty station on orders to Langley, and I have been seen while I'm on leave enroute still at my current station. My doctor informed me that upon arriving to my new duty station, a MEB will be initiated. I have chosen Remicade as a treatment option, which is going to affect my deployability. I am a 2W171 weapons loader, so obviously that is not preferable in my...
This may sound like a dumb question but at what point do we find out if our rating is combat related? I am being MEB'd for PTSD stemming from combat ops. My NARSUM does say " conducted daily ops in support of ground forces including missile strikes, bomb drops, close air support". I've been in an inpatient psych hospital and they also confirmed PTSD from moral injury (killing innocent people). Again, apologize if it's a dumb question but I'm still very early in the process and it's my understanding if I'm rated as a combat related disability it will be tax free and I can claim CRSC.
I am a newbie lol. I confused about why people are upset about their DoD rating (when VA rating is 100%) what is the difference? I thought the VA rating is the one that actually pays you? ------------------------ Edited by Moderator, 21 July 2019. I thought it is important to add a bottom line up front comment. Re: Accepting VA Compensation I have never seen a scenario where a retiree "received less" in total funds by accepting VA compensation. As most know, CH 61 disability retired pay is reduced by the amount of VA compensation. This is often referred to as VA Offset or VA waiver. IF the reduction/waiver results in residual (left over) retired pay, the retiree gets to keep it. Example: Retiree with $3000 retired pay and the VA...
Hey, so my PCM put in for my MEB last week Wednesday and told me to expect a call in 2-3 days? It’s now been a week and 2 days and haven’t received anything yet. I had called the MEB center down here in Hawaii and they give me my PEBLO and MSC info. I then called my PEBLO and she checked the system and said she doesn’t have my file and I’m not in the system at all, also told me it takes 1-3 weeks for it to be processed. But it doesn’t make sense cause the front desk had searched me up and seen me in the system and that’s how I found out who my PEBLO was. Also my coworker got referred for MEB also few days before me and got her call after 2 days. I’m just very confused about the whole situation. Could someone give me advice on how to go...
I have received a Non Duty Related - Physical Evaluation Board (NDR-PEB) packet/memorandum. I have to elect one of the following choices: o over 15 years but less than 20 (18 year retirement) o request my file be reviewed by NDR-PEB for fitness ruling only. I do have a VA disability rating but no rating on the military side. I am ok with retiring early on the M-Day (Illinois National Guard) side but how will electing “early retirement” affect what happens on the “Tech” side? Would I still be able to apply for a disability retirement or any other avenue to get 60/40? Any insight into this situation and/or what to expect in the process is greatly appreciated.
Hey everyone, so I have just finished my board and signed my findings a few weeks back, just awaiting an updated EAS. One question I had and was curious if anyone knew. Personnel separating through normal procedures in the military retain Tricare benefits for them and their families 6 months after exiting after service. I am 10% DOD but 100% VA. Although I am being medically separated after 5 years of service, are my spouse and I still entitled to Tricare benefits in the 6 months after separation? Any resources or answers would be helpful! Also my wife is on Johns Hopkins US Family Health Plan (Tricare branch), will she still retain that care for 6 months after I separate? Thanks in advance!
I am new to the forum. While reading through many of the comments and threats it immediately became apparent that there are some amazing servicemembers, veterans, and advocates who are doing great things here. I appreciate everyone's service in and out of the uniform, and your willingness to share, mentor, and advocate for our service members and their families. Job well done! I am requesting guidance and feedback reference something that I have been struggling with will deciding my way forward. Should I seek a disability/ medical retirement or wait for regular retirement? I am a 56-year-old National Guardsman I am an O6 with 36 qualifying years of qualifying service (14 years of previous enlisted service) I have a 100% P & T VA...
So, I was coded AAC 37 on 24 August 2022. My base (Cannon AFB) had their PEBLO quit shortly after i was coded and we just got a PEBLO this week. I reached out and was basically told my case wasn't brought up at the AMRO and the PEBLO has no information on my case and that we just have to wait. I brought up the fact that i have been coded for 2 months with absolutely no movement or contact from anyone at medical and i have no idea what is going on with my case. I have read a bunch of different stories and dove into the AFI trying to understand where i may be in the process but i just have no idea. I have less than a year in the military so trying to get this MEB rolling and make a decision so i know if i can skillbridge or not. I...

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