Physical Evaluation Board System Overview

An overview of the Physical Disability Evaluation System, including the MEB and PEB. Also, important decisions at each stage of the PDES, benefits, continuation on active duty/active reserve ( COAD / COAR ), the eight year rule, and more.

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This post, like this site, is a work in progress. I realized recently that even though all the information on the Physical Disability Evaluation System (PDES) can be found here, first time visitors probably need a guide to understand what is going on with their case. I will be posting a more comprehensive "Guide" in the near future. But for now, I want to put out this post to help newcomers and members alike understand how to use this site. First, in the Physical Disability Evaluation System Overview Forum, you can find some basic overview/information papers on understanding the process. The updated "Guide" that I will publish will eventually replace the info papers found there. But for now, you can get a grasp of the process. I...
I have an important advisory and issue of great importance for Air Force Reserve Component Members (Air Reserve and Air National Guard members). A few weeks back a colleague of mine called me and asked whether I had heard of ARC/ANG members being processed through the Legacy Disability Evaluation System (LDES). My friend shared a story of a client who was an AF Reserve member who was referred to the MEB and then the PEB notified his client that he was being processed by the PEB as an LDES case. The client had a current VA rating that was higher than the PEB decision. I was asked what I thought of this and I said that this made no sense and seemed patently illegal. I thought this was just an error or an aberration- until the next day...
The question on most of our minds is this: How long is it all going to take? This is an attempt to answer that question, but it's going to take all of us to do it. The idea is to give a very detailed account of the timeline of each person's case. It's one thing to say "in February I was tumpy tumpy" but there's a world of difference and two pay periods between the beginning of the month and end of it. Somwhere there's the theory if the sample population (ours here) is large enough, it comes to represent the whole (all military members going through this). If there are enough people who take notes and are good at remembering dates, or do like I do and keep a monthly planner you can keep notes in, then it would go a long way to...
Welcome again, everyone (well, as of now I am the only one registered here, but this is for all the future members). As I explained in the anouncement, I have created this site to provide US Military Servicemembers information about the MEB / PEB proccess. This is intended to be a one stop information resource center and discussion board. This is my first message board/website, so please bear with me as I learn more about this board's software and how to improve the user experience. Please feel free to offer suggestions. I know I won't be able to please everyone, but I will listen to input. Well, I hope this Board is helpful to the Servicemembers going through the PDES. I wish everyone the best of luck.
So, you are starting in the military disability process....you probably feel like the characters above. Let me point out several pointers and common errors that impact folks in getting to a favorable outcome. 1) Make an honest and fair evaluation of your situation and your goals as early as possible- then fight for your desired outcome. I have stated this countless times. One of the best things you can do to get the outcome you desire is to decide as early as possible what your desired outcome is. I have come across many cases where the member gets a bad outcome because they have "waffled" on what they want. For example, I have seen many cases where a member really wants to be found fit and continue their career. So, at the MEB...
Mind you these are all referenced to the Army, some may cross over to the other services those of you out there please post them on this discussion too! Thanks all!! Legacy-Old MEB/PEB process. IDES-Integrated Disability Evaluation System; new MEB/PEB process. DoD-means any military service/encompasses all. MEB-Medical Evaluation Board. PEB-Physical Evaluation Board. MMRB-MOS/Medical Retention Board. NARSUM-Narrative Summary. IPEB- Informal Physical Evaluation Board. FPEB-Formal Physical Evaluation Board. IPR –Independent Physical Review (Same as IMR). IMR-Independent Medical Review (Same as IPR). PDBR-Physical Disability Board of Review, for those out of the service already that need to correct a...
I was recently contacted by a staff member from the DoD Recovering Warrior Task Force. There is a panel discussion that they are holding in the Crystal City (Arlington), VA on Dec. 5, and they are looking for interested members going through the IDES. I was asked to post this announcement (which sounds like a good opportunity for people to have their concerns heard): The DoD Recovering Warrior Task Force (RWTF) is seeking Wounded, Ill, or Injured Service members who are in the Integrated Disability System Evaluation System (IDES) process, preparing for transition to civilian life, and willing to participate in a panel discussion. The RWTF was established by Congress in 2010 to provide DoD with advice and recommendations on...
I was placed on TDRL at 70% and 80% with the VA. 2 years ago I was moved to PDRL at 50%. I opted for VA pay originally being only active duty for just under 4 years. Was I supposed to notify the VA that the Navy put me on PDRL and lowered me to 50%? The letter I received does not mention the VA. The final TDRL appointment was almost a year before I received the letter stating I’m PDRL now and don’t recall if they told me to contact the VA or not. Today I had a C&P exam for increase in ratings, the provider did not ask about PDRL rating. Would I have to back pay to the VA for the time that I was lowered?
Hello! I am AD Air Force. Here is a little snippet of how my MEB stuff is going. 2023 Aug 8 - Code 37 Oct 10 - IDES referral sent to afpc Oct 20 - Met with peblo to sign IDES Nov 2 - MH VA Exam ° Uploaded to TOL 16 Nov Dec 7 - VA Audiogram ° Uploaded to TOL 12 Dec Dec 8 - C&P VA Exam 2024 Jan 4 - VA Diagnostic PFA (pulmonology) Feb 9 - VA Diagnostic Exams ° EKG ° Lab work ° Echocardiogram Since my last c&p exam resulted in needing follow-up appointments, does anyone know how much longer this process with take? Also, has anyone tried reaching out to a provider that did one of their c&p exams? I'm going on 5 weeks from my last...
I started my VA process during the BDD timeline. Prior to this, I signed up for the Selective Reserves through the Navy. I received my VA rating 100% P&T prior to checking into my temporary unit before being assigned a permanent unit. The medical chief at the Navy Reserve Center said a PEB would have to occur to determine if I can be retained. Would starting the PEB process affect my VA rating?
Can someone tell me for e. Prognosis statement and f. Impact on duty performance. it says SM would be unable to maintain steady civilian employment. And there is a requirement to montior or continue treatment for the chronic beyong 12 months? My question is could my percentage go up? It was marked for 70%. Thank you all
Good afternoon to all, My buddy is letting me use his account to ask a question. I don't really expect to get an answer. MEB STARTED: DEC 13, 2023 MET PEBLO: JAN 3, 2024 IDES BRIEF: Jan 9, 2024 Profile approved by DIV SUR: Jan 23, 2024 Packet sent to VA for exams: Jan 30, 2024 Contacted by QTC: Jan 31, 2024 C&P exams from: Feb 1, 2024 to Feb 23, 2024 It seems to be moving pretty quick to me, or is this standard for the army? I guess my question is when should I expect my ratings and be out of the army?

Meb

First post* I was put in for MEB Nov 28th I had already done all of my exams besides one because I was already getting out as an ETS so I did a BDD Last one was completed on December 8th Exams sent to my PEBLO February 26th Peblo called me February 27th and said she was sending my exams to have my narsum written up. This has been the longest process so far of just waiting! Also how do you check your status for your claims? My BDD just completely disappeared and nothing is on the VA website now.
Alright, so I've been underoing an MEB since October, and I finally got my ratings today, 50% permanent retirement, and according to my BEL I am 90% VA Disability rated. I called my MSC to discuss and he said that as far as he can see, I am rated at 100% per the actual VA rater. So basically, I am in a weird position now and that 10% makes a huge difference. I was diagnosed with a meningioma last year, underwent a craniotomy and only a part of the tumor was removed. I have been recovering, albeit very,very slowly and painfully since then. Overall, my VA ratings equal 480% (VA math, amirite?) Anyone have any information on this? Or has anyone seen this mistake before? My MSC says there was a mistake when whoever wrote my BEL was writing...
To preface, I have asthma that requires Advair, Singular, Albuterol and a nebulizer and psoriasis that I am on methotrexate pills for, plus my dermatologist is wanting to start me on Skyrizzi soon. Despite all this my PCM keeps telling me she wants to recommend to retain, I have brought up how my medications will affect my deployability and she says that doesn't matter and that I can still do my job at my base. This goes against everything I have researched and heard. What should I do?
Good Morning, I have a question for everyone. Does a SM have any options if their IRILO is returned with "return to duty" and the SM disagrees with that finding. I never received a copy of the NARSUM or commanders IMPACT statement prior to the decision. One of the NARSUM's is not accurate. Can a member appreal this decision at all and if so what are the steps. I could really use some advice and insight on this one. Thank you
Hi all, I had my MH C&P exam today. While we were getting started with the exam, I brought out my notes as I tend to forget things when l'm anxious and have serious memory issues. When the examiner saw me bring out my notes, she asked me to hand her my notes and told me that I could not use them for the exam. This kind of immediately made me panic as I was really relying on these notes to make sure I acknowledged everything that I’ve been dealing with during my service. Has this happened to anyone else?
Goodafternoon everyone, So my NMA is saying that my immediate supervisors are recommending me to be found fit to continue military services, But clearly my Doctors stated in my NARSUM that my 3 unfitting conditions are not expected to improve over the next several years. Those supervisor are also the people that don’t give a damn about me and made my conditions worst and NEVER adhere my limitations. What should i expect? Would they found me fit because my supervisors said so? Or doctors recommendation is stronger? I am really stressed right now and i don’t know what to do. Thank you so much.
I am currently going through an MEB for POTS. My commander recommended a RTD as well as local MEB. My package was sent to AFPC today and they recommended the case to be sent to IPEB for their adjudication. I really do not want to get out, I am still young and have only been in for a few years. What is the likelyhood that IPEB agrees with the RTD and if they don't what are my full options? My PEBLO knows about my choice of wanting to stay in but aren't really telling me everything. Any advice at all is appreciated. Thank you.
Full Timeline to June 23 Initial Medical Incident - Aug 2021 CKD Diagnosis – Nov 2021 Lupus Diagnosis – Dec 2021 Fibromyalgia Diagnosis – Feb 2022 DAWG – June 2022 PCS -July 2022 DAWG at New Base – Sep 2022 IRILO– Oct 2022 AFPC MEB -Nov 2022 Recommendation: Returned to Duty, No Restrictions– Dec 2022 IRILO – est June 2023 Good Day all, I have what I feel is a very unique situation and I was wondering if someone could provide some sort of clarity/ “guestimation” on what will happen with me and my case. I am content with my service ending but having some idea of what will happen and when would be so helpful. I’ve read a lot of other stories on lupus and autoimmune disorders on this forum and I cannot find one that is similar...
I am a reservist on active duty. I have researched this question and can't find a straight answer. What happens if I am DoD rated under 30% and deemed unfit of duty, but I have my 20 year letter? Some places say you have to have 20 years of "active service" or a 30% rating. Other places say you have to have 20 years of "creditable service." I have well over 20 years of creditable service (reserve good years) but I don't have 20 years of active service. Thanks in advance.
I'm an active duty 26M E5 in the Navy with 7 years in and my EAOS is in 2 years. After experiencing severe pain in my shoulder I was diagnosed with Bursitis from urgent care. After a shot of Lidocaine I went on my way until the pain returned the next day. My PCM was informed of my insomnia, constant pain and diagnosed bursitis so he ordered an MRI which revealed I had a baseball sized benign tumor called a "Subscapularis Intramuscular Hemangioma". I had surgery to remove it but months later my dominant arm ROM is still very limited (>25° abduction and >70 ° flexion/extension). The constant pain I was experiencing before recently came back and might actually be worse then ever before so i got another image taken and the tumor has grown...
CIS (do not retain) and Narsum were sent up to AFPC 2 weeks ago and I havent heard anything since. How long does AFPC take to make a decision? From what I understand this is the point where either they initiate a full MEB or return me to duty with or without a limitation code.
Hey all, start with the question, then context: How long after file being submitted for MEB should i expect to hear from PEBLO and how will i hear from them? I am new here as i was notified on 13 JUN from my group Surgeon that my file will be sent for an MEB. Long story short, have had a series of knee, neck, and back problems for years, and after last 2 years of treatment and pain management, nothing else can be done really so they sent it. It started when the orthopedic surgeon submit his recommendation for an MEB for my cervical neck, as he said surgery was not an option on one of the discs and there was nothing to reverse the symptoms of the others. Recently i had a fit for duty exam for my lumbar spine and right knee. Lumbar...
Hello, TL/DR: Is there any chance for a reevaluation of my low-back rating of 10% being increased after being diagnosed with Ankylosing Spondylitis (AS), despite how much range of motion i had during the test during IDES? I am active military with over 8 years of service and have appealed an informal PEB where I was offered an Army disability rating of 10% for low back pain (combat related), with severance, and a VA rating of 80%. Sounds great, so whats the problem? Well, the issue is that I have been diagnosed by a rheumatologist with Ankylosing Spondylitis (X-rays show fusion of the sacroiliac joints) as well as Fybromyalgia. I am currently taking an immunosuppressive biologic called Humira (just started the first dose) to treat...
I have 13+ years of active duty time. I am currently a reservist with 16 years of qualifying service. I also currently am rated at 70% by the VA. So I am receiving "Veteran with Spouse $1,861.28" for essentially 11 months out of the year since about a month is withheld due to receiving 36 days of reserve pay per year. My questions are 1) is since I am currently 70% by the VA. Once I hit my 20 years of qualifying time can I get medically retired? 2) if so, would it be at the 70% i am currently rated with the VA? 3) if is it, according to the calculator (at Medical High-3 Calculator ) 70% medical retirement would be $4,067/month $4,067 medical retirement is $2,206 more that the $1,861 VA disability so I would be better off going...
I received my ratings back from the PEBLO yesterday, 10% DoD and 90% VA. I feel like the DoD could be short changing me, because they combined my two conditions that don't meet the standard into one rating, Patellofemoral Tendonitis and a Grade 3 Horizontal meniscus tear. Also, I was rated 40% for Degenerative Disc Disease from the VA, and I asked the Dr. who did my NARSUM if that met standard, and he said it did, although I have debilitating sciatica. I haven't been able to talk to the SMBEC paralegals, they never respond at Fort Campbell, so I was hoping for someone who has some experience to give me some guidance as to if I am wasting my time not signing the DA199, or if I should just sign and proceed on with my life.
I was informed this week that I am being put up for medboard. My EAOS is 04 March. I called the PEB office and they say they have not received any paperwork that I would need to submit my RIS. Does anyone have any helpful information on what I should do to be able to extend my EAOS without the documents ?
Active Duty USAF with 17 1/2 years in. I just had an MEB and chose IDES. I received 40% DoD/100% VA P&T. I only have 2 1/2 more years to get to 20 so I am applying for a Limited Assignment Status (LAS) to get CRDP. If that’s approved, I will have a final MEB at 19 years. I want to keep my 100% rating and was told to choose LDES as it uses previous the exams where I was rather 100% P&T. Can anyone confirm that LDES uses previous C&P exams as well as DOD/VA rating? I don’t want to jeopardize my 100% P&T rating and I’m trying to hit 20 to get CRDP but can’t find any regulations on it.

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