Physical Evaluation Board System Overview

An overview of the Physical Disability Evaluation System, including the MEB and PEB. Also, important decisions at each stage of the PDES, benefits, continuation on active duty/active reserve ( COAD / COAR ), the eight year rule, and more.

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The question on most of our minds is this: How long is it all going to take? This is an attempt to answer that question, but it's going to take all of us to do it. The idea is to give a very detailed account of the timeline of each person's case. It's one thing to say "in February I was tumpy tumpy" but there's a world of difference and two pay periods between the beginning of the month and end of it. Somwhere there's the theory if the sample population (ours here) is large enough, it comes to represent the whole (all military members going through this). If there are enough people who take notes and are good at remembering dates, or do like I do and keep a monthly planner you can keep notes in, then it would go a long way to...
This post, like this site, is a work in progress. I realized recently that even though all the information on the Physical Disability Evaluation System (PDES) can be found here, first time visitors probably need a guide to understand what is going on with their case. I will be posting a more comprehensive "Guide" in the near future. But for now, I want to put out this post to help newcomers and members alike understand how to use this site. First, in the Physical Disability Evaluation System Overview Forum, you can find some basic overview/information papers on understanding the process. The updated "Guide" that I will publish will eventually replace the info papers found there. But for now, you can get a grasp of the process. I...
I have an important advisory and issue of great importance for Air Force Reserve Component Members (Air Reserve and Air National Guard members). A few weeks back a colleague of mine called me and asked whether I had heard of ARC/ANG members being processed through the Legacy Disability Evaluation System (LDES). My friend shared a story of a client who was an AF Reserve member who was referred to the MEB and then the PEB notified his client that he was being processed by the PEB as an LDES case. The client had a current VA rating that was higher than the PEB decision. I was asked what I thought of this and I said that this made no sense and seemed patently illegal. I thought this was just an error or an aberration- until the next day...
Welcome again, everyone (well, as of now I am the only one registered here, but this is for all the future members). As I explained in the anouncement, I have created this site to provide US Military Servicemembers information about the MEB / PEB proccess. This is intended to be a one stop information resource center and discussion board. This is my first message board/website, so please bear with me as I learn more about this board's software and how to improve the user experience. Please feel free to offer suggestions. I know I won't be able to please everyone, but I will listen to input. Well, I hope this Board is helpful to the Servicemembers going through the PDES. I wish everyone the best of luck.
So, you are starting in the military disability process....you probably feel like the characters above. Let me point out several pointers and common errors that impact folks in getting to a favorable outcome. 1) Make an honest and fair evaluation of your situation and your goals as early as possible- then fight for your desired outcome. I have stated this countless times. One of the best things you can do to get the outcome you desire is to decide as early as possible what your desired outcome is. I have come across many cases where the member gets a bad outcome because they have "waffled" on what they want. For example, I have seen many cases where a member really wants to be found fit and continue their career. So, at the MEB...
Mind you these are all referenced to the Army, some may cross over to the other services those of you out there please post them on this discussion too! Thanks all!! Legacy-Old MEB/PEB process. IDES-Integrated Disability Evaluation System; new MEB/PEB process. DoD-means any military service/encompasses all. MEB-Medical Evaluation Board. PEB-Physical Evaluation Board. MMRB-MOS/Medical Retention Board. NARSUM-Narrative Summary. IPEB- Informal Physical Evaluation Board. FPEB-Formal Physical Evaluation Board. IPR –Independent Physical Review (Same as IMR). IMR-Independent Medical Review (Same as IPR). PDBR-Physical Disability Board of Review, for those out of the service already that need to correct a...
I was recently contacted by a staff member from the DoD Recovering Warrior Task Force. There is a panel discussion that they are holding in the Crystal City (Arlington), VA on Dec. 5, and they are looking for interested members going through the IDES. I was asked to post this announcement (which sounds like a good opportunity for people to have their concerns heard): The DoD Recovering Warrior Task Force (RWTF) is seeking Wounded, Ill, or Injured Service members who are in the Integrated Disability System Evaluation System (IDES) process, preparing for transition to civilian life, and willing to participate in a panel discussion. The RWTF was established by Congress in 2010 to provide DoD with advice and recommendations on...
Hey I’ve been in the AF Reserve for nearly two years. My first year and a half was spent on active orders. During this I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis, symptoms started several months after being in. I am now on Remicade and have a LOD for my UC (and my depression caused by it). My NARSUM was sent to AFPC/SG (<—-I think) recently. My PEBLO told me that they will decide my C Code and will probably want to monitor me for a few years before thinking about sending me to MEB. However, my military doc told me that Remicade usually warrants a MEB right away. Can someone help shed some light on this for me? Am I likely to be MEB’d? Timeline? Any previous experiences that might reflect mine? Possible ratings if MEB’d out? Thank you.
Hello everyone, Thank you for being part of this group! I am scheduled to retire in April 2026 after completing my Active Duty Service Obligation (ADSO) following my promotion to CW3. However, I have the option to medically retire earlier to have an InterStim device reinstalled to manage my overactive bladder. In 2008, I initially had the device implanted without realizing it would result in a permanent non-deployable status. At that time, regulations did not specify being discharged for this condition. Unfortunately, I had to have the device removed due to it dislodging from my back. I am now at a critical decision point regarding when to have the device reinstalled. My primary concern is ensuring that I am not discharged just shy...
I am Zachary I was active duty in the USMC from 11-16, mos 6326. MV-22 avionics technician. Once I separated I joined the AF reserve in March of 17. I do have a VA rating of 30% I did not file until I put on the no pay no points status - I had no intention of filing since I was HMX my time in the Corps. however, January 2019 I was diagnosed with ocular melanoma, February 2019 was my last UTA. I was promptly placed on the MEB / PEB and could not participate in UTA. Now I know covid will makes worse but this process has been confusing and every time I reach out I get the run around. My previous CO seemed to really care and would keep in contact the new one has told me to only use the POC from medical - which is very hard to get a hold...
I've mentioned in my previous post that I was diagnosed with a congenital blood clotting disorder and the COA is indefinite blood thinners. In the midst of all of this, I had a cardiac cath due to ongoing chest pain (which I still live with) following multiple PEs. I've developed a radial artery thrombus 2 months ago and it has been persistent. I have since developed neuropathy of my right arm secondary to this thrombus. I'm now in pain management. If you have neuropathic pain, then you must know that nothing really relieves it and I live with the feeling of my arm being on fire. I just feel like things are snowballing. I have an appointment with a Neurologist today. I hope I can get answers and some relief. These are issues that may be...
Hey all, start with the question, then context: How long after file being submitted for MEB should i expect to hear from PEBLO and how will i hear from them? I am new here as i was notified on 13 JUN from my group Surgeon that my file will be sent for an MEB. Long story short, have had a series of knee, neck, and back problems for years, and after last 2 years of treatment and pain management, nothing else can be done really so they sent it. It started when the orthopedic surgeon submit his recommendation for an MEB for my cervical neck, as he said surgery was not an option on one of the discs and there was nothing to reverse the symptoms of the others. Recently i had a fit for duty exam for my lumbar spine and right knee. Lumbar...
Guys, my question is, at what point in the process do I sign the NARSUM, I have heard I am supposed to sign it a few weeks after my C&P exams, some also said I am supposed to sign it with my NMA even though I have already signed that one. What is the actual timeline or when will I get to sign it also where do I get it from?
Hello all, I have the following conditions, crohn's disease (likely the 60% VA rating kind, since I'm on biologics), sleep apnea requiring a CPAP, and anxiety. Im at 13.5 years in as a 1n4 AFSC and getting my ARILO routed early because I just don't think I can do it anymore. I'm hoping to get some reassurance that I have a good chance at the board allowing me to medically retire vs medically separate. I'm getting a civilian lawyer to help me out with that. Based on the above, do you all think I have a shot at a decent DOD rating, or just a high VA? Or am I worried about the wrong thing, is medically separating with a huge one time payment and a high VA % just as good as medically retiring? Are there folks who have been down this...
I joined in September 2023 and the night before graduation from bootcamp I had a braininjury, I ended up in the hospital for a few months and then was told I could go home. I was then later told in March that I needed to return for paperwork purposes. My retirement date was April 29th with a 40% rating. The peblo at RTC was very vague and my case manager has been very hard to get ahold of since I left so I was just wondering what the next steps are? Specially I have no income right now and need to set up my disability pay. I was also told that I would need to file a disability claim with the VA for extra benefits and pay and wanted to know if anyone had any information about that as once again my peblo was very vague and because of my...
Good afternoon all, Quick question. I am on active duty status going through IDES. I finished all my C&P exams last week and some symptoms I have are getting worse. I feel like I need to go to the doctor but feel that going may change some diagnoses that I got and not sure if it's worth the risk. Not for health reasons, but does anyone know if the VA will find out about this and could it change what was discovered during the C&P exams?
Back on 11/30/2023 I went to MTF to do a Mental Health screening/Eval, which turned into an unfit for duty conclusion. I then had contact with PEBLO on 01/19/24 who notified me of the IRILO. I filled out the required forms same day, my NARSUM was sent to PEBLO on 02/09/24. My IRILO package did not get sent up until 02/28/2024. I then was notified of the Full MEB recommendation on 04/03/2024 by PEBLO. I returned all required documents to the PEBLO that same day (04/03/24). since then, I have essential not heard anything back. I eventually talked to a different PEBLO at a different MTF and he looked in his system and observed that nothing has been done in the system since December of 2023. He was very shocked that 5 months have gone by...
Dear fellow PEB members. I have a quick question. When you get your results from your medical evaluation board and it comes back 50% DOD in 100% VA do are you eligible for a retirement ceremony, A flag flown wherever you want him to be flown, and basically everything as if I'm retiring after 20 years of service. I have been in for 15 years nowand when I got my findings back of 50% DOD and 100% VA my Command Master Cheifd said that I couldn't get that but my Pablo said I was entitled to everything. Where can I find this instruction this way I could show my CMCthat it can happen? Thank you guys and gals so much advance. AD2 (AW) Wall, W.C.
Hello, I just received my VA 100% P&T rating in May 2024.. Exams were in March 2024. I have 4 years left to get my 20 year and I'm currently in the Reserves. Most of my ratings are low back injury, sciatica, insomnia, and migraines. I am 37 years old. I currently have no profile in the Reserves. My VA conditions have been mentioned on my past 5 or 6 years of PHAs, however, they have never been examined or followed up by Army. It's my understanding that if I get 30% DoD or higher I can get Tricare. If I start MEB process now (or soon) will DOD use my VA C&P exams since they are so recent? If they do not use my recent VA Exams, will the MEB process risk me getting reevaluated and potentially change my VA 100% P&T rating? If it...
I am about a month into the PEB process. I received a psoriatic arthritis diagnosis recently and the diagnosing doctor told me to reach out to my PEBLO asap and let them know about this diagnosis as they are treating it with an injection that is also an immunosuppressant. I emailed and called my PEBLO to let her know and haven't gotten a response. I was just going to let it go, but the doctor actually called me today and wanted to see if I had heard anything from my PEBLO. He seems pretty knowledgeable about the whole PEB process, so I'm just wondering is this something I need to push letting my PEBLO know immediately? She has literally never returned an email or phone call to me, so I'm not positive that even continuing to reach out...
20 years NATIONAL GUARD/RESERVE I want to make sure i'm understanding this correctly. When someone is National Guard or Reserve with 20+years of credible service and you're going through MEB. The only benefits are 1. You won't have to wait till age 60 to start applying CRSC if you're even eligible. If you're not eligible, You'll have to wait till 60 years old STILL 2. You can get Tricare ( BUT if you're 100% VA, family can get CHAMPVA) 3. You can get a retirement ID to get on base (BUT if you're 100% VA, your 100% ID get you on base too) ***You still won't see a DOD check since even if you're over 20 years, with VA Offset, You will only get 1 check until you're 60 when CRDP comes into play THEN you'll get 2 checks UNDER 20 YEARS...
Received 100% P&T VA rating in May of 2024 from March 2024 C&P Exams. As it stands now I'm Eligible for CHAMPVA if/when I leave Reserves. I am a SSG in Army Reserves with 16 years in on an indef contract and no CRSC option. Wife and 5 young kids. I would like to follow through with a medboard and I know this can lead to "free" Tricare. However, I'm being told that if I don't get higher than 30% I will not get Tricare AND I will no longer be eligible for CHAMPVA l. This is due to being eligible for (very expensive) tricare retired reserve after Retiring with 20 years or medical separation with 15 years. Is any of this true? Basically I can.. A. Voluntary separate with CHAMPVA and 100% VA P&T benefits. OR B. Follow through...
Has anyone here done the LDES and it work out for them? I keep seeing everyone say they don't recommend it cause you lose out on protections. I'm an AGR and have been waiting for my PEBLO to send my 618 to the MSC for 6 weeks! Before that I got screwed on waiting for one signature for two months. I have a job lined up (very good one I can't pass up) who was going to wait for me, but my time line keeps getting pushed to the right. I have talked to ODC who said normally they are against LDES but my case they can see why I would want to. Then medical people at work said they talked to MSC and the MSC said the LDES would take longer. I can't let this employment opportunity slip and I am OK doing VA stuff on my own. Any advice? Combat PTSD...
I am active duty army and my MEB referral was put in 19 APR 2024 and went to the MEB/JAG brief on 23 APR 2024. I have yet to hear from a PEBLO and I was told I was assigned one and that they would contact me. I’ve seen some other timelines and were faster in the part of a PEBLO making contact. Just wondering if anyone else had this experience of waiting this long to hear anything.
Separated from active duty in 2017 after 10y on AD and transferred directly into SELRES. In 2020, I was found 100%P&T by the VA, but continued to drill. Over the last 2ish years, my service-connected conditions have drastically deteriorated, preventing me from fulfilling my reserve duties. I presented these deteriorating conditions to my Command and was directed to consult with my PCM. I provided all medical documentation to my PCM, including my military record (which he obviously has access to), VA claims documentation (including examiners' findings), and private doctors IOT ensure I've done what I can to help him make a fit/unfit determination. The following conditions are a wave top example of what I was rated for, but is not an...
I am currently in the Marine Corps, I am on BCP and am awaiting PEB findings. Recently I didn't mean height/weight standards for the extension on my BCP. They will be sending up an admin sep package. I am expecting my findings from the PEBLO in a month or so. The admin sep package has not yet been started but will start shortly. The medical board is for my back which is unrelated to my weight gain. Does the medical process and medical seperation trump admin sep? Or is it whatever comes first? OR whille I still be subject to admin sep even if findings come back as unfit and they approve a med sep?
Good afternoon I am in need of some clarification on a couple of things I am getting mixed information regarding my situation below is my situation Last year I suffered an injury while on PCS leave which put me in ICU and having to have surgery and I was stuck in PCS limbo for about 10months I finally was able to get my branch to allow me to pcs to a close duty station so I can receive better medical care. Currently I have 19 ys 2mnths of service. I would like some guidance on a couple of things I was denied SRU do to my MRD and not might be forced to medically retired. If this is the case will what is the difference between medical retirement and regular retirement as far as benefit wise. I am also worried about the difference in pay...
I’ve been dealing with foot pain for a little over a year now, have had doctors visits and light duties documented the whole time. Only at the start of this year did I get recommended to a specialist when ice and stretching didn’t fix it. This doctor has put me on limdu twice now and said that I have plantar fasciitis fibromatosis. I haven’t had a significant decrease in pain since I’ve seen him. He’s given me steroid shots in my foot and that’s about it. The question I have is my Gunny pulled me into his office and said the doctor put “Ability to Return to a Fully Deployable Status: Excellent” on my Limdu paperwork. He says that this can be bad news for me, and that if I don’t get better on this LIMDU and get placed on a MEB, the fact...

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