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JonBee

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If you can help me with this calculation id appreciate it. The DFAS CRSC offset really confused me to the point where I don't know up from down.

Gross Retired Pay DFAS 3800 WAIVED FOR VA PAY

Did you receive a DoD disability retirement? yes

My DOD disability retirement percentage was 70%.

Active duty years and months 13 years 1 month

My VA Compensation percentage is 100%.

The amount of my VA compensation is $4072

My dependents for VA compensation are spouse and 2 children under 18.

My approved CRSC percentage is 30%.

I also qualify for a reserve retirement at age 60

7.--Did you receive a REDUX/CSB payment? NO

8.--Did you accept the Blended Retirement program option? NO
 
JonBee said:
If you can help me with this calculation id appreciate it. The DFAS CRSC offset really confused me to the point where I don't know up from down.

Gross Retired Pay DFAS 3800 WAIVED FOR VA PAY

Did you receive a DoD disability retirement? yes

My DOD disability retirement percentage was 70%.

Active duty years and months 13 years 1 month

My VA Compensation percentage is 100%.

The amount of my VA compensation is $4072

My dependents for VA compensation are spouse and 2 children under 18.

My approved CRSC percentage is 30%.

I also qualify for a reserve retirement at age 60

7.--Did you receive a REDUX/CSB payment? NO

8.--Did you accept the Blended Retirement program option? NO
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Your CRSC will be 642.05 because 30% CRSC is that amount. That would not be the ceiling if you were approved for a higher percentage as you can get. See Below:

HIGH 3 PAY
5428​
DOD DISABILITY PERCENTAGE
70​
CRSC AWARD*(DOLLAR AMOUNT)
642.05​
YEARSMONTHS
TIME OF SERVICE
13​
1​
MONTHLY V.A. PAY
4072​
CRSC PAY
642.05​
RESIDUAL RETIRED PAY0
TOTAL FROM DFAS
642.05​
Total Pay
4714.05​
 
JonBee said:
If you can help me with this calculation id appreciate it. The DFAS CRSC offset really confused me to the point where I don't know up from down.

Gross Retired Pay DFAS 3800 WAIVED FOR VA PAY

Did you receive a DoD disability retirement? yes

My DOD disability retirement percentage was 70%.

Active duty years and months 13 years 1 month

My VA Compensation percentage is 100%.

The amount of my VA compensation is $4072

My dependents for VA compensation are spouse and 2 children under 18.

My approved CRSC percentage is 30%.

I also qualify for a reserve retirement at age 60

7.--Did you receive a REDUX/CSB payment? NO

8.--Did you accept the Blended Retirement program option? NO
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Based on my calculations the max you can get for CRSC is $1,775 so if you got your CRSC increased in the future it would benefit you financially.
 
Greetings,

Thanks for this forum.

Like so many others, I'm scratching my head over my total medical retirement compensation. I just signed my DA 199 with my PEBLO. My ratings are: 100% VA and 100% DoD.
My documentation says that I will receive $4000 in VA benefits. I have zero dependents except a dog :)

I will be getting out at 14 years 8 months as an O4 -- not my choice. I believe I may be entitled to CSRC on the following disabilities: Sinusitis/Rhinitis 30% (Pact Act), Tinnitus 10% due to several hundred funerals with no ear pro and a torn rotator cuff (30%). I also have lupus (100%), RA (50%) , Flat feet/Plantar (50%), and sleep apnea (50%) - not sure if any of those will qualify for CSRC.

The whole process is so mysterious. After waiting so many months, I was hoping my PEBLO would be able to tell me the total compensation numbers... When I called DFAS, they couldn't tell me anything because I guess my orders haven't reached them yet.

Any clarification would be appreciated.

Concerned about having to live under a bridge given my huge pay reduction.

Thanks!
 
nabani said:
Greetings,

Thanks for this forum.

Like so many others, I'm scratching my head over my total medical retirement compensation. I just signed my DA 199 with my PEBLO. My ratings are: 100% VA and 100% DoD.
My documentation says that I will receive $4000 in VA benefits. I have zero dependents except a dog :)

I will be getting out at 14 years 8 months as an O4 -- not my choice. I believe I may be entitled to CSRC on the following disabilities: Sinusitis/Rhinitis 30% (Pact Act), Tinnitus 10% due to several hundred funerals with no ear pro and a torn rotator cuff (30%). I also have lupus (100%), RA (50%) , Flat feet/Plantar (50%), and sleep apnea (50%) - not sure if any of those will qualify for CSRC.

The whole process is so mysterious. After waiting so many months, I was hoping my PEBLO would be able to tell me the total compensation numbers... When I called DFAS, they couldn't tell me anything because I guess my orders haven't reached them yet.

Any clarification would be appreciated.

Concerned about having to live under a bridge given my huge pay reduction.

Thanks!
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Your pay will be a patchwork and from multiple sources. My wife was 04 with 17 years AD and she had max DOD% and 80% CRSC & 100%VA. She received a check for full VA compensation. Another check for her chapter 61 pension minus that VA compensation & CRSC check.

Take 75% of your high 3 and that will be your Chapter 61 pension amount. That will be the minimum amount you will ever get. If your VA compensation is 4k and your chapter 61 pension is 5k then you will get 4k from VA tax free and 1k from your chapter 61 pension. If any of the conditions that were included in your DOD% were combat related then your 1k will be exempt from federal income taxes.

Then when you get out and get your VA compensation and pension if there is any left after VA offset you can recoup it by sending out a CRSC application packet to your branch of service claiming anything that you qualify for. There are several caps on CRSC with the most common one being that currently you can only get the totality of your earned longevity + VA compensation. With you having 14+ years in you should have some money left on the table that you can recoup via CRSC. So take your years of AD service and multiply it by 2% or 2.5% for whichever retirement system you are on. Lets assume you have 14.5 years in and your retirement isn't blended but the one before at 2.5% then you would take your high 3 base amount and multiple it by 36.25%. That amount + your VA compensation amount is the max amount you can get. If that amount is greater than your chapter 61 pension you have some money left on the table you can recoup from CRSC.

Also, there is some talk about the Major Richard Star act that will remove this cap so that those who are maxed out by the longevity + VA compensation can get more via CRSC. So even if the numbers don't work in your favor right away I would encourage you to apply for CRSC in case there are changes in the future to the law that will allow you to receive more compensation.
 
Thanks so much! This is helpful. Thought I was leaving the table with just the 4K which is nothing to sneeze at but still...
Appreciate all that you do on this forum! It has provided great comfort to know there are others with similar questions as mine.
Blessings!
 
I wanted to jump in with my (hypothetical) numbers to see if I am following the math correctly and/or understand the process.

Sorry if I have highjacked/not done enough of my own research...




Gross Retired Pay DFAS 4042

Did you receive a DoD disability retirement? yes

My DOD disability retirement percentage (is expected to be) 30%.

Active duty years and months (currently) NG points 1400 = 3 years 10 months

My VA Compensation percentage is 100%.

The amount of my VA compensation is $4072

My dependents for VA compensation are spouse and 2 children under 18.

My approved CRSC percentage is (expected to be) 100%.

I also qualify for a reserve retirement via chapter 61

7.--Did you receive a REDUX/CSB payment? NO

8.--Did you accept the Blended Retirement program option? YES


questions:
Can the CRSC percentage be rated higher than the DOD rating? (ex 100% CRSC and DoD 30%)

Is the max amount that CRSC can pay limited to 4042*2.0*3 years 10 months?


Thanks!
 
Hello,

Odds and ends.

Chapter 61 Disability Retirees:
Each CH 61 case involves these ceilings and other factors:

—Must be entitled to retired pay
—Agrees to waive retired pay in the amount of VA compensation received.
—CRSC cannot exceed the amount of the waived retired pay.
—CRSC cannot exceed the amount of the approved CRSC percentage (amt in VA Comp tables).
—CRSC cannot exceed the dollar amount of the longevity portion of retired pay.
—CRSC when combined with residual retired pay cannot exceed the longevity amount.

As one can see, more than one of the ceilings shown above could apply to the retiree. In those cases, the lesser amount is the CRSC amount.

Your questions:

questions:
1. Can the CRSC percentage be rated higher than the DOD rating? (ex 100% CRSC and DoD 30%).

Yes, the CRSC is based on combat related disabilities for which one receives VA comp. Many folks do not have a DoD rating since they were not CH 61. Me for example.

Is the max amount that CRSC can pay limited to 4042*2.0*3 years 10 months?

No.
In your case, high three (total of highest 36 mo of pay divided by 36) is multiplied by the longevity multiplier.
Active duty equivalent x 2% = longevity multiplier
High three base pay x longevity multiplier = a CRSC ceiling
You would receive the lesser of the longevity OR the amount found in the VA comp tables for the approved. CRSC percentage

You wrote you qualify for reserve retirement. Do you have 20 good years?

Ron
 
Ron, I apoligize for being unclear. I would be a Chapter 61 retiree from the National Guard. I only have 1400 points currently which I think gets a total of 3 years, ten months.
 
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Am I doing this right?

My longevity multiplier (2%*3.8years )* High 3 (4042) = $307.19

does that mean that no matter the CRSC percentage, 307.19 would be the max additional added back to the monthly compensation?
 
JakeTrilla said:
Am I doing this right?

My longevity multiplier (2%*3.8years )* High 3 (4042) = $307.19

does that mean that no matter the CRSC percentage, 307.19 would be the max additional added back to the monthly compensation?
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yes. You can't get more than the combination of your VA compensation and earned longevity. Currently CRSC acts a lot like CRDP except that it is exempt from income taxes. That may change in the future if the Richard Star bill is passed. So to get the maximum compensation you need to get 20% or higher CRSC ratings.
 
Provis said:
yes. You can't get more than the combination of your VA compensation and earned longevity. Currently CRSC acts a lot like CRDP except that it is exempt from income taxes. That may change in the future if the Richard Star bill is passed. So to get the maximum compensation you need to get 20% or higher CRSC ratings.
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Agree.

He mentioned: "Gross Retired Pay DFAS 4042:" and he uses that number for the longevity computation.

Since high three average base pay is the total of the highest 36 months of pay, divided by 36. It is unusual for the Gross Retired Pay on the DFAS RAS to be the same as his average high three base pay.

Ron

added: Ahhh...he has yet to retire I guess and is using the Active duty pay.
 
Thank you both Ron and Provis!

For the DFAS Retired pay I just used the monthly amount for an E-6 with more than 10 years monthly pay. I assusmed this is the expected retirement amount which may be totally wrong...

Is using 3.8 years correct or is there a minimum number for years used? I thought I read 6 years was the minimum for calculating longevity... but it could be that my brain is just randomly picking numbers...?
 
JakeTrilla said:
Thank you both Ron and Provis!

For the DFAS Retired pay I just used the monthly amount for an E-6 with more than 10 years monthly pay. I assusmed this is the expected retirement amount which may be totally wrong...

Is using 3.8 years correct or is there a minimum number for years used? I thought I read 6 years was the minimum for calculating longevity... but it could be that my brain is just randomly picking numbers...?
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That number for monthly pay for calculations will be lower since the formula is your highest 36 months base pay added together and then divided by 36. Though since your points are so low you don't have a lot of longevity. So it most likely will be a cap of $200 to $300 for CRSC.

There is no 6 year minimum that I know of. That may be severance stuff. FYI if you got less than 30% DOD you wouldn't medically retire and instead get a severance payment. If that happened you wouldn't qualify for CRSC.
 
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