Bipolar and personality disorder

gtnshielg

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Can a SM be diagnosed with both of these conditions, or does one overrule the other (ex. A personality disorder means you aren't bipolar)?

Thanks in advance.
 
All personality disorders have the following exclusion criterion:

DSM 5, p. 647, “E. The enduring pattern is not better explained as a manifestation or consequence of another mental disorder.”

So it would depend on the relationship, if any, between the diagnostic criteria of the unnamed personality disorder and the diagnostic criteria of bipolar disorder. You may want to discuss this with your provider.
 
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Can a SM be diagnosed with both of these conditions, or does one overrule the other (ex. A personality disorder means you aren't bipolar)?

Thanks in advance.
If a Solider has been in 8 active duty years or more then everything is service connected. Yes a SM can be diagnosed with several different mental health conditions. They are lumped together for rating purposes under the designation of mental health by the VA.
 
If a Solider has been in 8 active duty years or more then everything is service connected. Yes a SM can be diagnosed with several different mental health conditions. They are lumped together for rating purposes under the designation of mental health by the VA.
I've seen this cited often. Do you know, are the 8 active duty years title 10 only? Does title 32 and/or drill accumulated to 8 years also meet the standard?

Thanks as always,

Dave
 
See link: 10 U.S. Code § 1207a - Members with over eight years of active service: eligibility for disability retirement for pre-existing conditions
See link: Section 101 - Definitions, 10 U.S.C. § 101 | Casetext Search + Citator

Its 8 years Active Federal Service. So when on active duty orders for the federal government that would count towards the 8 years. Orders for the state and drilling for the state would not count.

However, if you are Guard/Reserve you would still need LOD as anything injury or illness that wasn't caused while on orders would be non duty related meaning the service connected part wont matter as far as concerning a chapter 61 retirement or severance. Basically you still have conditions that need to be met. Its much simpler for Active Duty. You could have a genetic disease and it would be service connected and ratable for VA% and DOD% if the soldier had already served 8 or more years AFS.
 
See link: 10 U.S. Code § 1207a - Members with over eight years of active service: eligibility for disability retirement for pre-existing conditions
See link: Section 101 - Definitions, 10 U.S.C. § 101 | Casetext Search + Citator

Its 8 years Active Federal Service. So when on active duty orders for the federal government that would count towards the 8 years. Orders for the state and drilling for the state would not count.

However, if you are Guard/Reserve you would still need LOD as anything injury or illness that wasn't caused while on orders would be non duty related meaning the service connected part wont matter as far as concerning a chapter 61 retirement or severance. Basically you still have conditions that need to be met. Its much simpler for Active Duty. You could have a genetic disease and it would be service connected and ratable for VA% and DOD% if the soldier had already served 8 or more years AFS.

Provis, thank you for the awesome information/advice from you and Chaplain.

Does this all still apply even for personality disorders? I've seen online that the VA rates these as 0% because they're "pre-existing, lifelong disorders."

I understand MH is all lumped into one rating, but I'm curious if they would take all the symptoms that could be from your PD and not consider them for a rating. For example, when you would normally get some percentage for depression symptoms, they'll instead blame it on the PD and give you nothing.
 
See link: 10 U.S. Code § 1207a - Members with over eight years of active service: eligibility for disability retirement for pre-existing conditions
See link: Section 101 - Definitions, 10 U.S.C. § 101 | Casetext Search + Citator

Its 8 years Active Federal Service. So when on active duty orders for the federal government that would count towards the 8 years. Orders for the state and drilling for the state would not count.

However, if you are Guard/Reserve you would still need LOD as anything injury or illness that wasn't caused while on orders would be non duty related meaning the service connected part wont matter as far as concerning a chapter 61 retirement or severance. Basically you still have conditions that need to be met. Its much simpler for Active Duty. You could have a genetic disease and it would be service connected and ratable for VA% and DOD% if the soldier had already served 8 or more years AFS.
I was assuming as such but thank you, its helpful to know.
 
The VA examiner may non-concur with a service provider’s Dx.
 
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