CRSC Assistance and Sanity Check

eldritchbebop

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Good Evening Gentlemen,

First time poster here, but I've spent a few days reviewing everyone's CRSC experiences and reading up on the mentoring from the moderators and ambassadors. I know nothing is bulletproof and from what I've read here, it seems that PTSD is a difficult condition to get approved for CRSC. I was an Intelligence Specialist and I know that rate is not normally associated with Combat Deployments. I'm currently going through the process of getting my CRSC package ready to send to the Navy board, and would like a gut check on if I have a good shot at it being approved (in addition to some secondary conditions), and a further sanity check on if there's anything I'm forgetting to include, and anything that I do not have that might hurt my chances. I have questions regarding what to put in Block G of the DD2860. Apologies in advance for the long post ...

I was medically retired from the Navy in 2020 for PTSD following an incident in 2018 where I was ordered by my Command to seek help from a professional at Behavioral Health. My PTSD stemmed from a 14 month deployment to Afghanistan, where I was sent out as an Individual Augmentee (Navy slang for a one of one deployment, detached from my parent Command and imbedded in a unit, so as a result I don't have much documentation of the events of the deployment other than my 1650/3 and Eval.) I was imbedded in a MARSOC team, and forward deployed to a small FOB for 14 months as a UAV Operator. I ate, slept and lived with this team for that period until my IA was up and it was time to come home. I supported 52+ combat operations directing the team during numerous fire fights via radio, and was responsible for giving the call of Positive ID and authorizing the release of ordinance, resulting in the neutralization of 13 HVTs. During UAV recovery operations, due to the geographic needs of how we had to recover the drone (a capture device on a raised hill that was easily visible to anyone in the village from outside of the FOB) I was targeted by small arms fire and mortar fire on numerous occasions while retrieving the Drones. Additionally our ECP was attacked multiple times, and I was required to defend the checkpoint with my weapon while MARSOC conducted clearing operations.

My BH Doc diagnosed me with severe PTSD and I was shortly Med Boarded after. The PEB found me unfit due to PTSD (CR, AC, CZONE) and the board's PEB findings further stated that "the disability was the direct result of a combat related injury" as well as "The Board finds further that the disability was incurred in the line of duty as a direct result of armed conflict. All board members concurred." When I received my retirement orders, they had the annotations V1 - Disability due to armed conflict and V2 - Disability incurred in a combat zone. I was placed on the TDRL at 70% for PTSD and received a VA rating of 100% P&T. When out-processing the PEBLO told me to make sure that I applied for CRSC due to my situation as I was entitled to it. I've now received my PDRL letter (dropped to 50%) and am going about the process.

What I've included (if I miss it in the list, and it's required on the DD2860/CRSC page, I've included it and just forgot to post) and some notes on each ... Of the things listed below, is there anything I'm missing that severely hurts my chances of being approved?

- Admin: My DD214, Retirement Orders, PDRL Letter, PEB Findings
- Med Records: Two years worth from BH that saw me in the Navy, with detailed comments from the provider on the combat events that resulted in my PTSD, triggers, as well as treatment plans and medication. I do not have records from the deployment period because young me "wasn't a weenie and could never get PTSD or go talk to someone"
- VA Code Sheet and VA Decision Letters (Note here: the VA Decision Letter for PTSD says nothing about combat but that it resulted from a 'stressful event' is this an issue?)
- Evals: I have the Eval from my unit covering 2012-2013, which includes writeups on the combat ops support, and HVTs neutralized from my UAV operations
- Awards: Army Achievement Medal (Note: the 1650/3 here is sparse, due to the nature of Special Operations Task Force and says nothing specific about operations, only "for excellent support to the SOTF mission") as well as my Afghanistan Campaign Medal, and Enlisted Expeditionary Warfare Qualification. I do not have a CAB, or any combat specific award and was told by the MARSOC unit that they didn't do those and I was Navy.
- Non-Medical Assessment from my O-5 at the time of the Med Board submitted to the PEB. The NMA clearly states my PTSD stemmed from a combat deployment with MARSOC, and details the amount of operations I took place in, the instances where I had to defend the FOB ECP, circumstances where I took direct and indirect fire during recovery operations, and his recommendation for removal from service due to the severity of my PTSD. (Note here: The Commander that wrote it was NOT the Commander from my war-time chain of command, though he did know my OIC in Afghanistan and reached out to him for confirmation and his comments during the assessment writeup.)

Now onto the DD2860 ... I'm claiming four conditions

1 of 4 - PTSD (70%): I detailed the above events of supporting combat ops, directing MARSOC on the ground during fire fights, ordering the release of ordinance on insurgents, instances where the FOB was breached and I was required to defend it, and instances where I was shot at by small arms and IDF as the cause of my PTSD.
2 of 4 - Tinnitus (10%): I stated that my tinnitus stems from small arms fire, and an IDF detonation nearby that caused permanent hearing damage
3 of 4 - Sinusitis (30%): This was approved under the PACT Act, and included my toxic exposure memo from the MARSOC Corpsman as well as Gulf War service. I managed the burn pits on our FOB and had to burn trash, human waste and jet fuel daily. Due to how small the FOB was, and proximity of the pits to the wire, I had to stand by the open flames until they had burned off to ensure they didn't spread.
4 of 4 - Headaches (50%): I commented that the headaches are a result of the chronic sinus infections I suffer from my Sinusitis. This one I'm unsure of. It was approved by the VA under TERA, Toxic Exposure Memo and Gulf War service. My headaches are caused by chronic sinus infections. I know it's not a PACT ACT presumptive condition, but was unsure since it was approved by the VA for TERA/GW if it had a shot here.

If you made it this far thank you for reading, and any help you can offer.
 
Good Evening Gentlemen,

First time poster here, but I've spent a few days reviewing everyone's CRSC experiences and reading up on the mentoring from the moderators and ambassadors. I know nothing is bulletproof and from what I've read here, it seems that PTSD is a difficult condition to get approved for CRSC. I was an Intelligence Specialist and I know that rate is not normally associated with Combat Deployments. I'm currently going through the process of getting my CRSC package ready to send to the Navy board, and would like a gut check on if I have a good shot at it being approved (in addition to some secondary conditions), and a further sanity check on if there's anything I'm forgetting to include, and anything that I do not have that might hurt my chances. I have questions regarding what to put in Block G of the DD2860. Apologies in advance for the long post ...

I was medically retired from the Navy in 2020 for PTSD following an incident in 2018 where I was ordered by my Command to seek help from a professional at Behavioral Health. My PTSD stemmed from a 14 month deployment to Afghanistan, where I was sent out as an Individual Augmentee (Navy slang for a one of one deployment, detached from my parent Command and imbedded in a unit, so as a result I don't have much documentation of the events of the deployment other than my 1650/3 and Eval.) I was imbedded in a MARSOC team, and forward deployed to a small FOB for 14 months as a UAV Operator. I ate, slept and lived with this team for that period until my IA was up and it was time to come home. I supported 52+ combat operations directing the team during numerous fire fights via radio, and was responsible for giving the call of Positive ID and authorizing the release of ordinance, resulting in the neutralization of 13 HVTs. During UAV recovery operations, due to the geographic needs of how we had to recover the drone (a capture device on a raised hill that was easily visible to anyone in the village from outside of the FOB) I was targeted by small arms fire and mortar fire on numerous occasions while retrieving the Drones. Additionally our ECP was attacked multiple times, and I was required to defend the checkpoint with my weapon while MARSOC conducted clearing operations.

My BH Doc diagnosed me with severe PTSD and I was shortly Med Boarded after. The PEB found me unfit due to PTSD (CR, AC, CZONE) and the board's PEB findings further stated that "the disability was the direct result of a combat related injury" as well as "The Board finds further that the disability was incurred in the line of duty as a direct result of armed conflict. All board members concurred." When I received my retirement orders, they had the annotations V1 - Disability due to armed conflict and V2 - Disability incurred in a combat zone. I was placed on the TDRL at 70% for PTSD and received a VA rating of 100% P&T. When out-processing the PEBLO told me to make sure that I applied for CRSC due to my situation as I was entitled to it. I've now received my PDRL letter (dropped to 50%) and am going about the process.

What I've included (if I miss it in the list, and it's required on the DD2860/CRSC page, I've included it and just forgot to post) and some notes on each ... Of the things listed below, is there anything I'm missing that severely hurts my chances of being approved?

- Admin: My DD214, Retirement Orders, PDRL Letter, PEB Findings
- Med Records: Two years worth from BH that saw me in the Navy, with detailed comments from the provider on the combat events that resulted in my PTSD, triggers, as well as treatment plans and medication. I do not have records from the deployment period because young me "wasn't a weenie and could never get PTSD or go talk to someone"
- VA Code Sheet and VA Decision Letters (Note here: the VA Decision Letter for PTSD says nothing about combat but that it resulted from a 'stressful event' is this an issue?)
- Evals: I have the Eval from my unit covering 2012-2013, which includes writeups on the combat ops support, and HVTs neutralized from my UAV operations
- Awards: Army Achievement Medal (Note: the 1650/3 here is sparse, due to the nature of Special Operations Task Force and says nothing specific about operations, only "for excellent support to the SOTF mission") as well as my Afghanistan Campaign Medal, and Enlisted Expeditionary Warfare Qualification. I do not have a CAB, or any combat specific award and was told by the MARSOC unit that they didn't do those and I was Navy.
- Non-Medical Assessment from my O-5 at the time of the Med Board submitted to the PEB. The NMA clearly states my PTSD stemmed from a combat deployment with MARSOC, and details the amount of operations I took place in, the instances where I had to defend the FOB ECP, circumstances where I took direct and indirect fire during recovery operations, and his recommendation for removal from service due to the severity of my PTSD. (Note here: The Commander that wrote it was NOT the Commander from my war-time chain of command, though he did know my OIC in Afghanistan and reached out to him for confirmation and his comments during the assessment writeup.)

Now onto the DD2860 ... I'm claiming four conditions

1 of 4 - PTSD (70%): I detailed the above events of supporting combat ops, directing MARSOC on the ground during fire fights, ordering the release of ordinance on insurgents, instances where the FOB was breached and I was required to defend it, and instances where I was shot at by small arms and IDF as the cause of my PTSD.
2 of 4 - Tinnitus (10%): I stated that my tinnitus stems from small arms fire, and an IDF detonation nearby that caused permanent hearing damage
3 of 4 - Sinusitis (30%): This was approved under the PACT Act, and included my toxic exposure memo from the MARSOC Corpsman as well as Gulf War service. I managed the burn pits on our FOB and had to burn trash, human waste and jet fuel daily. Due to how small the FOB was, and proximity of the pits to the wire, I had to stand by the open flames until they had burned off to ensure they didn't spread.
4 of 4 - Headaches (50%): I commented that the headaches are a result of the chronic sinus infections I suffer from my Sinusitis. This one I'm unsure of. It was approved by the VA under TERA, Toxic Exposure Memo and Gulf War service. My headaches are caused by chronic sinus infections. I know it's not a PACT ACT presumptive condition, but was unsure since it was approved by the VA for TERA/GW if it had a shot here.

If you made it this far thank you for reading, and any help you can offer.
What is your CRSC cap? In my opinion, the goal is to get the highest CRSC % needed to recoup the entire amount lost from the VA offset.

1 of 4. You have a good chance based on documentation and that the PEB said it was combat related though that isn't binding on the CRSC board.
2 of 4. I would call it a sure thing if this was Army. Not sure how the Navy does it so can't help you there.
3 of 4. This is a sure thing. I would be shocked if you didn't get approved for this one. Though each branch does interpret things a bit differently from each other. If you were Army it would be a 99.9% since they look for VA rating and proof of being in qualified country for presumptive approval.
4 of 4. No clue on this one. My wife didn't even think to apply for this even though she was in the same situation as you with. She had sinus disease with 50% rating and that contributed to her migraines which are 50% and debilitating. She only needed 50% CRSC to max out and get back all the money lost due the VA offset.

You are very detailed. I think your results will be good. I would calculate your estimated crsc needed to make you whole. That will help you to know what is needed and may help alleviate some stress.

I would join @RetiredColonel-MikeT CRSC facebook group & on this message board you can send him your filled out CRSC application and he can review it. He did for my wife and it was a lot of help!
 
Hey Provis, thanks for the reply man. Just going off of the CRSC Calculator on the website, it looks like 50% is what would cap me out, due to years of service. I'll keep my fingers crossed that the board considers the PTSD and accepts the evidence I send them.
 
I got your PM and will take a look at it at some point early this week I hope, I have a couple in front of you to work on as of yet. Will let you know :)
 
Excellent, thank you sir. I look forward to it :)
 
James,

Ok, so, here's my feedback based on the above:
1. I agree with @Provis on his thoughts on this, a lot of it will fall upon who you were assigned to while deployed, obviously, it's not a 100%, although I would say you have a better chance than not based on your documentation. I think your efficiency reports will weigh heavily in your favor on their decision.
2. I have seen that the Navy does actually look at what your rating was and if it's considered a "high noise" rating. So, with that, I'd say 50/50 on getting approved. Army they don't even need you to file for tinnitus as they'll award it if the VA rated it. Wish all branches were like that, but I have seen the Navy be douches about it.
3. PACT Act presumptive, if the Navy denies it, I'd go full Congressional on them. There's no reason why it should be denied unless the analyst is an idiot, plain and simple.
4. Yeah, the only way this one would be approved is if it was considered "secondary" to the sinusitis; then it would be automatic. If the VA did the ratings properly for those going through IDES, they would have put the headaches as "secondary" and be done with it. This is how vets are screwed by the system because no one had the forethought to fix how they do the ratings: everyone going through IDES, their VA conditions are all "incurred" across the board.

- Mike
 
PTSD without a PH or valor award is tough

Sinusitis if the VA decision says granted due to presumption and lists the countries and dates. It’s crucial the decision says was granted due to presumption.

Headaches I think you have a good shot. Especially if the VA rational says due to your sinusitis

Good luck with the Navy CRSC. They are saying 18 months which is BS! I’d give them about 6 months and alert your congressional rep. Clearly they are not reasourcibg their CRSC board. Whatever CPT or ADM making that decision should explain to congress why.
 
Good morning everyone!

First time poster, long time reader. I am in need of some help. I tried finding a thread specifically for what I need help with but couldn't find one. Army Reserve, 17 years, medically retired, 100% VA, 70% DOD, 2 tours to Iraq (2005, 2010). I applied for CRSC in mid April 2025. I just received my approval letter at 80%. I was approved for Chronic Fatigue/Fibro, IBS, Tinnitus, Hearing loss, and left knee patellofemoral pain syndrome. I was denied my PTSD claim for lack of supporting documentation (I was an involuntary transfer to a deploying unit and they did not take care of us transfers). My question is on the award letter it states I can file for reconsideration if I have supporting documentation of the events I listed on my CRSC application. One such supporting document would be "Wartime Chain of Command Statements Corroboating Exposure to Armed Conflict." I contacted the HRC CRSC helpline yo see what documents are approved for the statements and was given contact info of an ambassador in my area. Unfortunately upon calling and a quick web search, the ambassador info they gave me was for an individual who passed away 3 years ago. I called back and received infor for 2 other ambassadors with 4 different phone numbers, and wouldn't you know it, none of the numbers were correct.

So my question is does anyone know what the CRSC Board or reconsideration board will accept as far as a wartime chain of command statement and in what format (DD Form, DA form, Word Document, or what)? I already contacted my 1SG from my first deployment and he said he would sign whatever I send him as he knows we got screwed by the lower leadership in not doing their jobs for awards, CAB's, Purple Hearts, and what have you. Thank you in advance!!!

Jim
 
Good morning everyone!

First time poster, long time reader. I am in need of some help. I tried finding a thread specifically for what I need help with but couldn't find one. Army Reserve, 17 years, medically retired, 100% VA, 70% DOD, 2 tours to Iraq (2005, 2010). I applied for CRSC in mid April 2025. I just received my approval letter at 80%. I was approved for Chronic Fatigue/Fibro, IBS, Tinnitus, Hearing loss, and left knee patellofemoral pain syndrome. I was denied my PTSD claim for lack of supporting documentation (I was an involuntary transfer to a deploying unit and they did not take care of us transfers). My question is on the award letter it states I can file for reconsideration if I have supporting documentation of the events I listed on my CRSC application. One such supporting document would be "Wartime Chain of Command Statements Corroboating Exposure to Armed Conflict." I contacted the HRC CRSC helpline yo see what documents are approved for the statements and was given contact info of an ambassador in my area. Unfortunately upon calling and a quick web search, the ambassador info they gave me was for an individual who passed away 3 years ago. I called back and received infor for 2 other ambassadors with 4 different phone numbers, and wouldn't you know it, none of the numbers were correct.

So my question is does anyone know what the CRSC Board or reconsideration board will accept as far as a wartime chain of command statement and in what format (DD Form, DA form, Word Document, or what)? I already contacted my 1SG from my first deployment and he said he would sign whatever I send him as he knows we got screwed by the lower leadership in not doing their jobs for awards, CAB's, Purple Hearts, and what have you. Thank you in advance!!!

Jim
Ask Colonel Mike T. I don’t think they would accept “buddy letter” like the VA. Usually they want something already in your records. I suppose you can give it a shot. Not sure. I hear you on awards. The CAB didn’t exist until I was nearing the end of my second deployment, so must of us who served before 2006 didn’t get CABs. They were bad about records. Would not dare call PTSD, PTSD, because I think they knew if you had PTSD and it was found unfitting is 50% and automatic medical retirement, see the Sabo lawsuit.
 
Ask Colonel Mike T. I don’t think they would accept “buddy letter” like the VA. Usually they want something already in your records. I suppose you can give it a shot. Not sure. I hear you on awards. The CAB didn’t exist until I was nearing the end of my second deployment, so must of us who served before 2006 didn’t get CABs. They were bad about records. Would not dare call PTSD, PTSD, because I think they knew if you had PTSD and it was found unfitting is 50% and automatic medical retirement, see the Sabo lawsuit.
I new to this How do I get in contact with Colonel Mike T?
 
Good morning everyone!

First time poster, long time reader. I am in need of some help. I tried finding a thread specifically for what I need help with but couldn't find one. Army Reserve, 17 years, medically retired, 100% VA, 70% DOD, 2 tours to Iraq (2005, 2010). I applied for CRSC in mid April 2025. I just received my approval letter at 80%. I was approved for Chronic Fatigue/Fibro, IBS, Tinnitus, Hearing loss, and left knee patellofemoral pain syndrome. I was denied my PTSD claim for lack of supporting documentation (I was an involuntary transfer to a deploying unit and they did not take care of us transfers). My question is on the award letter it states I can file for reconsideration if I have supporting documentation of the events I listed on my CRSC application. One such supporting document would be "Wartime Chain of Command Statements Corroboating Exposure to Armed Conflict." I contacted the HRC CRSC helpline yo see what documents are approved for the statements and was given contact info of an ambassador in my area. Unfortunately upon calling and a quick web search, the ambassador info they gave me was for an individual who passed away 3 years ago. I called back and received infor for 2 other ambassadors with 4 different phone numbers, and wouldn't you know it, none of the numbers were correct.

So my question is does anyone know what the CRSC Board or reconsideration board will accept as far as a wartime chain of command statement and in what format (DD Form, DA form, Word Document, or what)? I already contacted my 1SG from my first deployment and he said he would sign whatever I send him as he knows we got screwed by the lower leadership in not doing their jobs for awards, CAB's, Purple Hearts, and what have you. Thank you in advance!!!

Jim
Jim,

HRC has finally taken it to task to vet the Ambassador list as they're getting too many complaints about no one being able to connect with one of us. They know me personally from the outreach I've been doing between here, my FB group and word of mouth. I think they decided to get off of their asses when I volunteered to do exactly that. My yardstick for anyone is to develop a letter that meets the requirements for a CAB under AR 600-8-22 Ch 8-8 as seen in the image below. If you write up something for your former 1SG that falls under this guidance then you "should" be gtg.

CAB requirements AR 600-8-22 Ch 8-8.png
 
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