CRSC Calculation Help

Wolverine82

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Been racking my brain on this for quite awhile, and still am unsure. After a meeting with MEB Counsel today, it was estimated that my CRSC would be around $175. Everything else I have researched/calculated says otherwise - can someone please help with this?

18 years (high 3 = $5244)
50% DOD
100% VA
70% CRSC (Projected)
Spouse w/ 2 children under 18

Thanks!
 

RonG

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Been racking my brain on this for quite awhile, and still am unsure. After a meeting with MEB Counsel today, it was estimated that my CRSC would be around $175. Everything else I have researched/calculated says otherwise - can someone please help with this?
18 years (high 3 = $5244)
50% DOD
100% VA
70% CRSC (Projected)
Spouse w/ 2 children under 18

Thanks!
1. 5244 x 0.50 = 2622 ret pay
2. 3000+ VA COMP causes total waiver of ret pay
3. 18 yrs AD x 0.025 = 45% multiplier
4. 5244 x 0.45 = ~2360 longevity portion of ret pay
5. 70% CRSC spouse w/2 c under 18 = 1623.48 (lower than item 4)
6. CRSC = 1623.48 IF the 18 years are active duty or equivalent (total points/360)

NOTE: If the 18 years are not active duty, the AD equivalent (total points divided by 360) would be multiplied by 2.5% and the result would be the multiplier rather than 45% shown at item 3. The H3, 5244 would be multiplied by the new percentage and the result would be the longevity portion of the retired pay. The CRSC would be the lesser of the revised longevity amount and the amount at item 5. Current computation shows item 5 as the lesser.

Ron
 
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Wolverine82

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1. 5244 x 0.50 = 2622 ret pay
2. 3000+ VA COMP causes total waiver of ret pay
3. 18 yrs AD x 0.025 = 45% multiplier
4. 5244 x 0.45 = ~2360 longevity portion of ret pay
5. 70% CRSC spouse w/2 c under 18 = 1623.48 (lower than item 4)
6. CRSC = 1623.48 IF the 18 years are active duty or equivalent (total points/360)

Ron
Thank you, Ron!
 

RonG

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Please note my added remark about 18 years.

Ron
 

Bartmarc73

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Hi all,
hopefully you can clear things up for me. I was awarded my CRSC on July 23rd. DFAS says retro pay can take 30-60 days. From what date does that 30-60 go? is it award letter date or the date they start the audit (because there is about a 2 week time frame between the two).
Also, I left active in 10/2013 and went in to the reserves. I was collecting VA compensation during this. I was eventually medically retired after 4 years. Are they going to go to my medical retirement date or to the date i started receiving va benefits?
 

RonG

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CRSC can be no earlier than the date one begins to accrue VA comp since CRSC replaces some or all of the VA offset.
VA comp is paid after it accrues (e.g., VA comp for 1-30 Sep 18 will be paid 1 Oct 18).

The range DFAS gives is imprecise; I have seen cases where the retro CRSC arrived three months after they received notification of the approval. In my opinion, most retro from DFAS is paid within 1-2 months.

Ron
 

Bartmarc73

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so you are saying they COULD potentially pay from when VA disability was awarded?
 

RonG

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so you are saying they COULD potentially pay from when VA disability was awarded?
Yes, IF you waived retired pay for the same period. There are other restrictions, per DFAS:
Your retroactive payment date may go back as far as June 1, 2003, but can be limited based on:
—your overall CRSC start date as awarded by your Branch of Service
—your Purple Heart eligibility
—your retirement date [and date VA offset began]
—your retirement law (disability or non-disability)
—six-year barring statute

The DFAS usually uses the CRSC approval document as the basis for the start date.

Ron
 

Wolverine82

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Ron,

Not sure if you can help with this or not, however I am considering submitting a COAD packet. Can you tell me how this influences pay, if COAD is approved and I reach a 20 year retirement?

Just to recap, here is my current situation:

18 years (high 3 = $5244)
50% DOD
100% VA
70% CRSC (Projected)
Spouse w/ 2 children under 18

Thanks!
 

RonG

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Wolverine,

1. With 20 year retirement (regular):
—You would receive all your VA compensation and all your retired pay through CRDP (if VA rating is 50% or more)

—if you chose CRSC @ 70% while having a regular (20 year) retirement, you would waive retired pay dollar for dollar in the amount of VA compensation received, but only the 70% CRSC rate (which uses VA compensation tables) would replace the waived retired pay.

2. Medical retirement (Chapter 61) and without qualifying for another retirement type:
—You would waive retired pay dollar for dollar in the amount of VA compensation received. You would not be eligible for CRDP.

—If you had a VA rating of at least 10% and CRSC was approved at a certain percentage, you would receive a replacement of waived retired pay at the LESSER of
a. The percentage approved which corresponds to the rates in the VA comp tables
OR
b. The dollar amount of the longevity portion of retired pay.

3. The benefit of having a regular retirement while receiving VA comp is usually worth thousands of dollars more each year than having a medical retirement and receiving VA comp when the retiree does not qualify for another type of military retirement.

Ron
 
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