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JohnKnight1981

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Can someone give me an editing CRSC form. I need the newest one with the correct address. The ones i keep find have different address and I want to make sure I get the right one with the correct address. Thank you in advance. Also before I try to send this off, for those that have completed the form and have been approved. I have been medical retired from the Army. I got 30% DOD and 70% VA. Im also a purple heart recipient. Should I apply or am I wasting mine and the DFAS time.
 

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Can someone give me an editing CRSC form. I need the newest one with the correct address. The ones i keep find have different address and I want to make sure I get the right one with the correct address. Thank you in advance. Also before I try to send this off, for those that have completed the form and have been approved. I have been medical retired from the Army. I got 30% DOD and 70% VA. Im also a purple heart recipient. Should I apply or am I wasting mine and the DFAS time.
Welcome to the PEB Forum! :)

Indeed, reference the below attachment to view the latest version of DD Form 2860 (Jul 2011); Claim for Combat-Related Special Compensation (CRSC) form.

To that extent, please ensure that the latest version of Adobe Reader XI (Version 11.0.3) is installed for optimum compatibility onto your electronic system/device.

Moreover, applying for CRSC can provide military retirees a monthly compensation that replaces their DoVA disability offset. Meaning that qualified military retirees with 20 or more years of service that have "combat related" DoVA-rated disability will no longer have their military retirement pay reduced by the amount of their DoVA disability compensation. Instead, they will receive both their full military retirement pay and their DoVA disability compensation.

That said, please ensure that you are in receipt of all complete DoVA rating decisions/physician reports/medical records including the DoVA letter, the actual DoVA rating decisions and the DoVA code sheets; otherwise, your CRSC claim shall be denied and/or not processed.

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer."

Best Wishes!
 

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Warrior, thanks for the info. Unfortantly I did not do 20 plus years. I was in the Army for 6 and half years before I was medically discharge. I did find that the CRSC is for combat related injuries. So here is the info I can give to better hope that you might understand. I for one everytime I try to read the requirments I get a headache trying to read it. So here goes, 10 percent for left hip combat related. both knees 10 percent each non combat. These are the percentages I got from DOD. VA gave me 50 percent for PTSD (doesnt say combat related or not) but it is only through the VA not DOD side. So am I to understand that the only claim I really have is for my hip that is combat related for an entitlement for CRSC. My monthly retirement pay from the Army is only 728 and VA is 1591 (kids and wife) so of course I elected to take the VA pay. So, with that info put out their, is it worth getting DFAS to take a look at my app. or will I be wasting my time?
 

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Warrior, thanks for the info. Unfortantly I did not do 20 plus years. I was in the Army for 6 and half years before I was medically discharge. I did find that the CRSC is for combat related injuries. So here is the info I can give to better hope that you might understand. I for one everytime I try to read the requirments I get a headache trying to read it. So here goes, 10 percent for left hip combat related. both knees 10 percent each non combat. These are the percentages I got from DOD. VA gave me 50 percent for PTSD (doesnt say combat related or not) but it is only through the VA not DOD side. So am I to understand that the only claim I really have is for my hip that is combat related for an entitlement for CRSC. My monthly retirement pay from the Army is only 728 and VA is 1591 (kids and wife) so of course I elected to take the VA pay. So, with that info put out their, is it worth getting DFAS to take a look at my app. or will I be wasting my time?
You are welcome, indeed! :)

Since you are an U.S. Army medically disabled retired veteran, please reference the below CRSC eligibility requirements as annotated from the USAHRC website's Special Compensation Branch (CRSC/TSGLI) Article:

In order to be eligible for CRSC you MUST meet all of the following criteria:

1. Receiving military retired pay for one of the following: 20 year Retiree, Medical Chapter 61, Temporary Early Retirement Act, and Temporary Disabled Retirement List Retiree
2. Have 10% or greater VA rated injury that is combat-related
3. Military retired pay is reduced by VA disability payments (VA Waiver)

AND… must be able to provide documentary evidence that your injury was a result of one of the following:
  • Training that simulates war (e.g., exercises, field training)
  • Hazardous duty (e.g., flight, diving, parachute duty)
  • An instrumentality of war (e.g., combat vehicles, weapons, Agent Orange)
  • Armed conflict (e.g., gun shot wounds [Purple Heart], punji stick injuries)
Moreover, indeed since you have a documented combat-related injury (e.g., 10 percent for left hip) as determined by the USAPDA PEB. Please remember that the USAHRC CRSC Branch shall make its own determinations about CRSC, so it can only benefit you and your family to submit the CRSC application for any 10% or greater DoVA rated injury that is combat-related.

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer."

Best Wishes!
 
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ranger2992

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Thanks Warrior. You been a really big help man.
It's all about walking the dog and clearly stating why the injury is combat related. The purple heart injury should be automatic. For PTSD, you need to clearly draw a line between your PTSD and the combat events driving it. Don't limit yourself to the little box on the form. If you have to attach an addendum to completely explain it, then do it. Don't send the board a moving box full of medical records that don't apply to your claim. Send them specific documents that draw the line between the injury and combat. Lastly, you are not limited to your DOD unfitting injuries. You can claim anything the VA rated. Again, you just have to be able to draw the line.

If you want to fill out your form and do the addendum, I will be happy to take a look at it and give you an honest opinion.

Joe
 

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Thanks Warrior. You been a really big help man.
You are welcome, indeed! :)

By the way, ranger2992 is definitely an experienced military veteran in reference to CRSC application generation, its completion, and overall CRSC insightful advice in my opinion! :cool:

To that extent, his CRSC knowledge and assistance is well documented within the PEB Forum; just perform a search for validation of facts! ;)

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer."

Best Wishes!
 

JohnKnight1981

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problem I'm going to have for a PTSD claim for CRSC is that I dont have any medical documents what so ever. I never went to Mental Health. That is the main reason why the Army didn't pick up the PTSD as part as my disability but the VA did. So from the looks of it the only thing CRSC will look at will be the 10% on the Hip.
 

ranger2992

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problem I'm going to have for a PTSD claim for CRSC is that I dont have any medical documents what so ever. I never went to Mental Health. That is the main reason why the Army didn't pick up the PTSD as part as my disability but the VA did. So from the looks of it the only thing CRSC will look at will be the 10% on the Hip.
Your VA medical records will support the PTSD and the events that caused it. CRSC will look at everything you submit. They may deny it, but they may not. If they do, appeal and continue to add evidence. The point is get it on the books. Your purple heart can play a key part in it if the PTSD can be linked to the event that your were awarded the purple heart. Again, walk the dog with a clear statement that draws a straight line and supports the conclusion.

I was awarded CRSC for adjustment disorder. I did not have a book of medical records supporting that claim. I did write a very clear statement that supported my conclusion. They agreed.

All you can do is try. It sounds like you are talking yourself out of it, but I recommend you don't do that.

Joe
 

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BTW, the Army routinely does not find PTSD unfitting. The Army and the VA have completely different standards, as does the CRSC board. In the Army for a condition to be unfitting, it must prevent you from performing your duties. That is a much higher standard than the VA applies. The CRSC board looks at all VA conditions and does not require the injury to be something that was unfitting in the Army.
 

JohnKnight1981

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Thanks for that insight. I wasn't so much as talking myself out of it. I just didn't want to waste my time trying for something that was surly going to get denied. Takes for this info. As far as my PTSD the only thing I have on record is the fact the VA said yes I have it. They did not put a medical code on it either as they didn't see it as unfit for the Army side. I will try to type it out how my PTSD is involved with combat relations as well as how my Purple Heart plays into effect with the PTSD. Thanks for all the info Ranger and Warrior. This is a very big help. Once I do get done typing it all out I will send you a copy of the message I type up for Section 13 box J.
 

ranger2992

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HA! I found the VA code for my ptsd its 9413.
The code is not going to say as much as a well written statement like: " I was diagnosed by the VA on XXX date(see attached medical records) based upon my BH symptoms related combat events I was involved in from XXX date to XXX date. One event in particular where I XXXXXXXXXXXXX (see attached Purple Heart) involves vivid nightmares, severe anxiety, and reclusive behavior. I am currently enrolled in individual counseling, as well as group therapy, but have not improved as of yet"

They may completely disagree with this statement, but you can see how it draws a straight line, and has some evidence to back the claim. Again, the condition does not have to be unfitting, it just has to be service connected and fall into the main categories of CRSC entitlement.
 

JohnKnight1981

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This is what I wrote on Section 13 Box J for my Hip

2010 July 13th, The ANCOP was brenched by enemy fighters using shape charge. During the fire fight I took shrapnel from a hand grenade to my right side of my torse and tossed me onto my left side of my hip. During the accident I felt I just hurt a muscle and it would go away over time. Unfortunately that was not true. The Tear has caused me not to be able to run and have a popping sensation in my hip that is painful.


This is what I wrote on Section 13 Box J for my PTSD

I was diagnosed by the VA on 20120913 based upon my BH symptoms related to the ANCOP Breach I was involved on 20100713. One event in particular where I was hit by shrapnel from a hand grenade. (see attached Purple Heart paper work and award) involves vivid nightmares, severe anxiety, reclusive behavior, depressive disorder and insomnia.
 

ranger2992

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This is what I wrote on Section 13 Box J for my Hip

2010 July 13th, The ANCOP was brenched by enemy fighters using shape charge. During the fire fight I took shrapnel from a hand grenade to my right side of my torse and tossed me onto my left side of my hip. During the accident I felt I just hurt a muscle and it would go away over time. Unfortunately that was not true. The Tear has caused me not to be able to run and have a popping sensation in my hip that is painful.


This is what I wrote on Section 13 Box J for my PTSD

I was diagnosed by the VA on 20120913 based upon my BH symptoms related to the ANCOP Breach I was involved on 20100713. One event in particular where I was hit by shrapnel from a hand grenade. (see attached Purple Heart paper work and award) involves vivid nightmares, severe anxiety, reclusive behavior, depressive disorder and insomnia.
Those look pretty good to me. Another question for you. Do you have access to the report of the incident? As in the BLUFOR, or any other type of intel on the breach? I assume, your purple heart references some of the reports. Did you get a CAB for this incident? Again another good item to attach. Lastly, ask your NCO to do a sworn statement about the incident. If you have that stuff I see you as having a good chance at a positive outcome.
 

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Welcome to the PEB Forum! :)

Indeed, reference the below attachment to view the latest version of DD Form 2860 (Jul 2011); Claim for Combat-Related Special Compensation (CRSC) form.

To that extent, please ensure that the latest version of Adobe Reader XI (Version 11.0.3) is installed for optimum compatibility onto your electronic system/device.

Moreover, applying for CRSC can provide military retirees a monthly compensation that replaces their DoVA disability offset. Meaning that qualified military retirees with 20 or more years of service that have "combat related" DoVA-rated disability will no longer have their military retirement pay reduced by the amount of their DoVA disability compensation. Instead, they will receive both their full military retirement pay and their DoVA disability compensation.

That said, please ensure that you are in receipt of all complete DoVA rating decisions/physician reports/medical records including the DoVA letter, the actual DoVA rating decisions and the DoVA code sheets; otherwise, your CRSC claim shall be denied and/or not processed.

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer."

Best Wishes!

Hello, just joined this site and add what it took for me to actually open and save the latest DD Form 2860 (July 2011).
1) Yes, definitely have the latest version of Adobe Acrobat Reader. You can download it free from Adobe's website.
2) So, when you go to the DoD DTIC website for DoD forms and search "DD 2860" it will bring up the page with the form.
If you just click on the PDF link, it will open and give you an ERROR message, saying update your Adobe. However, that is the problem, even with the newest edition of Adobe. So... this is what my wife finally figured out.
3) You have to right click on the PDF and click on "Save Link As" to your desktop. Don't just click on the link as it will NOT open the form.
4) Now, with the PDF form on your desktop, RIGHT CLICK on it and use the "Open with" option and CHOOSE "Adobe Acobat Reader" and the form should now open. You can fill it out and it should SAVE the data also.

Sorry for being so long winded but I spent ages trying to figure out how to open the damn form!
 

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My advice for crsc is to apply and relax. The purple heart is automatic. You will receive some crsc pay. Also congress will be passing new dod/VA benefits in 2016/2017 so apply now and reapply in the future.
 

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Hello, just joined this site and add what it took for me to actually open and save the latest DD Form 2860 (July 2011).
1) Yes, definitely have the latest version of Adobe Acrobat Reader. You can download it free from Adobe's website.
2) So, when you go to the DoD DTIC website for DoD forms and search "DD 2860" it will bring up the page with the form.
If you just click on the PDF link, it will open and give you an ERROR message, saying update your Adobe. However, that is the problem, even with the newest edition of Adobe. So... this is what my wife finally figured out.
3) You have to right click on the PDF and click on "Save Link As" to your desktop. Don't just click on the link as it will NOT open the form.
4) Now, with the PDF form on your desktop, RIGHT CLICK on it and use the "Open with" option and CHOOSE "Adobe Acobat Reader" and the form should now open. You can fill it out and it should SAVE the data also.

Sorry for being so long winded but I spent ages trying to figure out how to open the damn form!
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Welcome to the PEB Forum! :)

No worries and appreciate you outlining your experiences in reference to working with the latest version of DD Form 2860 (Jul 2011); Claim for Combat-Related Special Compensation (CRSC) form! Take care :cool:

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer!"

Best Wishes!
 
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