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TheSpaceCowboy

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I didn't want to go through a MEB. I've been in for well over 15 years and had no plans of stopping. I looked at every chance I could to try and avoid it, but in the end I couldn't avoid it.

After all this time in service, I've had plenty of injuries. I sought medical attention when they were at their worst, so there are plenty of paper trails for lots of issues, but for the most part I tried to be hard and avoid chronic treatment that might trigger a MEB. It helped that my most recent jobs were office-type jobs without organized PT, so it became pretty easy to hide. I'd treat the crippling pain through Advil and alcohol, and would make excuses about why I couldn't be at work.

Once I realized that the MEB was unavoidable, and the odds of being found fit were slim, I went open-kimono about all my issues. My PCM has been great throughout the process, and has helped to treat me for all these injuries. After the VA exams, I realized that there were a lot of conditions that also didn't meet medical retention standards (e.g. certain joint ranges of motion), so I asked my PCM to add the appropriate profiles for those that would apply, in the hopes that if I have to get kicked out of the military against my will, hopefully I can retain any benefits that I might have earned.

He forwarded me an email he received from the MEB doctors, who said that they deleted all the new profiles and that I was a fraud who was just trying to scam the government.

These are very real injuries, with medical histories, lab and radiology reports that support it, and VA exam confirmations. I've been in the military for over half my life, have been in plenty of combat, and have sacrificed my health to support the mission. I only sought help when absolutely necessary. I didn't want a MEB, but it was forced upon me - and when I tried to include all my potentially unfitting injuries, I was called a liar by some doctor in a swivel chair who's never met me. This is how we treat our service members???
 
Hello @TheSpaceCowboy ,

I am sorry I do not have expertise in the areas you described. Recommend returning tomorrow morning to determine if a SME has seen your post.

Good luck,
Ron
 
How is this possible have you been declared unfit already? I assume so since you had your VA exams he may just think at this stage additional profiles are unnecessary which I would have to agree. Oftentimes I see questions with members trying to add additional unfitting conditions to the MEB after it is pretty much wrapped up it does kinda drag out the process you would need to speak to your MEB attorney and PEBLO for the best course of action. Remember you max out at 75% on the DoD side so anything more than that you are wasting your time. Not sure what you think you are sitting at now for DoD ratings.
 
How is this possible have you been declared unfit already? I assume so since you had your VA exams he may just think at this stage additional profiles are unnecessary which I would have to agree. Oftentimes I see questions with members trying to add additional unfitting conditions to the MEB after it is pretty much wrapped up it does kinda drag out the process you would need to speak to your MEB attorney and PEBLO for the best course of action. Remember you max out at 75% on the DoD side so anything more than that you are wasting your time. Not sure what you think you are sitting at now for DoD ratings.
I haven’t been found unfit yet - I’ve only received the NARSUM and MEB proceedings that only included the referred condition. The author seemed to ignore most of the VA findings. Talking to my counsel, they recommended trying to keep building the case for the other conditions that should be considered medically unacceptable by reg, and that included adding the profiles. My doctor added the profiles, and that’s when I got the response accusing me of being a scammer.

Based upon my referred condition, which is rated under an analogous code that doesn’t quite encompass everything, I am guessing my DoD rating would either be at 10% or 30%.
 
This happens all too frequently. Many people just soldier on and then end up in the MEB process.


I suggest you get legal counsel and wait and see what the VA returns. The service must accept VA percentages.


The overuse of malingering in the military is well documented. I'm not sure why some professionals in mlitary get sucked into being company men/women.
 
This happens all too frequently. Many people just soldier on and then end up in the MEB process.


I suggest you get legal counsel and wait and see what the VA returns. The service must accept VA percentages.


The overuse of malingering in the military is well documented. I'm not sure why some professionals in mlitary get sucked into being company men/women.
When you say “overuse of malingering,” you mean that too often, service members are unjustly accused of malingering? Or that too many service members malinger?
 
When you say “overuse of malingering,” you mean that too often, service members are unjustly accused of malingering? Or that too many service members malinger?
Hello,

@chaplaincharlie comment: I infer he meant that the term "malingering" is used as a catch-all word for many types of disabilities and in a few cases, faux claims of medical problems.

His remarks suggest that term is used unsystematically.

Just my opinion; he can best define the usage.

Ron
 
Hello,

@chaplaincharlie comment: I infer he meant that the term "malingering" is used as a catch-all word for many types of dishabilles and in a few cases, faux claims of medical problems.
His remarks suggest that term is used unsystematically.

Just my opinion; he can best define the usage.

Ron
Sorry but what do you mean by dishabilles? English isn’t my first language. Thank you
 
Sorry but what do you mean by dishabilles? English isn’t my first language. Thank you
Re: "dishabilles"

Thank you for bringing this matter to my attention.

It means that my fingers did not comply with what I intended to type. "Dishabilles" is a misspelling of disabilities.

Ron
 
What I was trying to say is malingering is diagnosed way to much in the military. When docs can't figure it out, rather than admit heir limits, they assume the patient is malingering.
 
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