Information Neccessary for CRSC Estimate--Chapter 61 Retirees

RonG

PEB Forum Veteran
Registered Member
Per request received via private message.

Information needed for Chapter 61 disability retirement CRSC estimate (the information should be provided in an open forum):

The information associated with all of the five numbered items below is needed. Incomplete answers will preclude an accurate estimate. Each numbered item below is a factor in the CRSC calculation.

1. High three base pay average for retirement or your current DoD disability retirement gross found on page one of the DFAS RAS. Please indicate whether you are providing the high three average or the retirement gross found on the DFAS RAS. The high-36 method is the average of the highest 36 months of basic pay divided by 36. This is generally the last 3 years of service and is sometimes called high-3. EXAMPLE: High three average $3333 (or alternative: Gross Retired Pay on DFAS RAS $xxxx.xx)

2. DoD disability retirement percentage. EXAMPLE: 50% DoD

3. Years and months of active duty EXAMPLE: 11 years and 3 months
Note: The creditable years of service (active duty equivalent) for a reserve calculation is determined by the sum of accumulated reserve points divided by 360.

4. VA compensation percentage and amount plus identify dependents by category and number EXAMPLE: 60% VA Compensation, $1600, Spouse and 6 children under 18

5. Approved or expected combat related disability percentage (application was required). EXAMPLE: 70% CRSC

Ron
 

Ironmike

Registered Member
Hi Ron, thanks in advance:


1. High 3 $7000

2. 50% DoD

3. Years and months of active duty: 10 years, reserve calculation. 28 years service in NG and Reserve, multiple AD deployments.

4. 100% VA Compensation, $3343, Spouse and 2 children under 18

5. 100% CRSC (estimated)
 

RonG

PEB Forum Veteran
Registered Member
Hi Ron, thanks in advance:


1. High 3 $7000

2. 50% DoD

3. Years and months of active duty: 10 years, reserve calculation. 28 years service in NG and Reserve, multiple AD deployments.

4. 100% VA Compensation, $3343, Spouse and 2 children under 18

5. 100% CRSC (estimated)
a. 7000 x 0.50= 3500 DoD
b. 10 AD or active duty equivalent x 0.025 = 25% multiplier
c. 7000 x 0.25 = 1750 longevity portion of retirement pay
d. 3500 DoD Ret Pay minus 3343 VA offset = 157 residual retired pay
e. CRSC @ 100% 3343, cannot exceed waived retired pay = 3343
f. Item c is less than item e = 1750 minus 157 residual retired pay = 1593 CRSC
EACH MONTH
VA 3343
Residual retired pay 157
CRSC 1593
TOTAL 5093

Note: active duty equivalent is total points divided by 360
Ron
 

Ragnarok86

Registered Member
Hi Ron, thank you for your help:

1. High 3: 1414.00 (I think, waived disability for VA in 2013.) RAS statement on mypay is 1462.00

2. 60% DoD

3. 7 years, 1 month active service.

4. 80% VA disability (single with one child) 1719.25

5. 60% CRSC rating (Received letter of approval on 12/10/18)


On another note, I filed for CRSC on July 31st, 2018. Letter states I was approved on November 28th, 2018. I was told that for the Army, wait times were around a year at best, but apparently something has changed. I'll update once my compensation and back pay hit, so hopefully a clearer timeline can be seen.
 

RonG

PEB Forum Veteran
Registered Member
Hi Ron, thank you for your help:

1. High 3: 1414.00 (I think, waived disability for VA in 2013.) RAS statement on mypay is 1462.00

2. 60% DoD

3. 7 years, 1 month active service.

4. 80% VA disability (single with one child) 1719.25

5. 60% CRSC rating (Received letter of approval on 12/10/18)


On another note, I filed for CRSC on July 31st, 2018. Letter states I was approved on November 28th, 2018. I was told that for the Army, wait times were around a year at best, but apparently something has changed. I'll update once my compensation and back pay hit, so hopefully a clearer timeline can be seen.
Good info on the CRSC processing cycle...thanks.

1. High 3: 1414.00 (I think, waived disability for VA in 2013.) RAS statement on mypay is 1462.00. Comment: 1462/0.60 =
2436.67 high three

2. 60% DoD comment: 2436.67 x 0.60 = 1462.00

3. 7 years, 1 month active service. Comment: 7.08 years x 0.025 = 17.7% multiplier
Comment: 2436.67 x 0.177 = 431.29 dollar amount of longevity portion of retirement pay

4. 80% VA disability (single with one child) 1719.25 Comment: causes full waiver of 1462 retirement pay


5. 60% CRSC rating (Received letter of approval on 12/10/18) Comment: More than $1,000

6. Item 3 is less than item 5 = 431.29 CRSC

Ron
 

RonG

PEB Forum Veteran
Registered Member
Thank you for your help. Hopefully its higher rather than lower, but I'll take what I can get at this point.
You’re welcome.

As a Ch 61 retiree your CRSC will be the lesser of
--the dollar amount of the longevity portion of your retired pay
or
--the amount in the VA compensation tables that mirrors the CRSC rate approved by your service

The “lesser” in your case is the dollar amount of the longevity portion of retirement pay.

Ron
 

Ironmike

Registered Member
a. 7000 x 0.50= 3500 DoD
b. 10 AD or active duty equivalent x 0.025 = 25% multiplier
c. 7000 x 0.25 = 1750 longevity portion of retirement pay
d. 3500 DoD Ret Pay minus 3343 VA offset = 157 residual retired pay
e. CRSC @ 100% 3343, cannot exceed waived retired pay = 3343
f. Item c is less than item e = 1750 minus 157 residual retired pay = 1593 CRSC
EACH MONTH
VA 3343
Residual retired pay 157
CRSC 1593
TOTAL 5093

Note: active duty equivalent is total points divided by 360
Ron

Hi Ron,

I just got word I have 100% DoD, so here is my updated info - are my claculation correct then?

a. 7000 x 1.00 but max 75% = 5250 DoD
b. 10 AD or active duty equivalent x 0.025 = 25% multiplier
c. 7000 x 0.25 = 1750 longevity portion of retirement pay
d. 5250 DoD Ret Pay minus 3343 VA offset = 1907 residual retired pay
e. CRSC @ 100% 3343, cannot exceed waived retired pay = 3343
f. Item c is less than item e = 1750 minus 1907 residual retired pay = 0 CRSC

EACH MONTH
VA 3343
Residual retired pay 1907
CRSC 0
TOTAL 5250

Or would CRSC be 1907 only tax free?
 

RonG

PEB Forum Veteran
Registered Member
I just got word I have 100% DoD, so here is my updated info - are my claculation correct then?

EACH MONTH
VA 3343
Residual retired pay 1907
CRSC 0
TOTAL 5250
Or would CRSC be 1907 only tax free?
a. 7000 x 1.00 but max 75% = 5250 DoD —check
b. 10 AD or active duty equivalent x 0.025 = 25% multiplier —check
c. 7000 x 0.25 = 1750 longevity portion of retirement pay — check
d. 5250 DoD Ret Pay minus 3343 VA offset = 1907 residual retired pay — check
e. CRSC @ 100% 3343, cannot exceed waived retired pay = 3343 check
f. Item c is less than item e = 1750 minus 1907 residual retired pay = 0 CRSC check

EACH MONTH
VA 3343 — check
Residual retired pay 1907 —check
CRSC 0 — check
TOTAL 5250– check

No CRSC and all retired pay is taxable based on info here.

Ron
 
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