What should i expect

Ullose272

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Hello, i just started my 12th year in the ANG and im a ART. November of 2018 i tore my supraspinatus in my right shoulder and ended up having shoulder surgery march of 2019, i was a fairly major full thickness tear. It was LOD and i was put on Medcon orders for 7 months. I was released to self pt in october, but shortly after my recovery plateaued and i have pain lifting much weight, can barely do 10 pushups when i used to max out 65+ every pt test. Next week i am going back to the Dr to talk with him about the pain. To add to this, in july i was diagnosed with wolff parkinson white syndrome, a heart condition, and had an ablation in august, we had thought it had fixed it, but last week i had a SVT (supraventricular tacycardia) event so there may be some other issues there. Anyone have any idea what i may be looking at going forward? We are deploying in April, and i really want to go, its a lot of money and a chance to actually do the real job, im afraid im going to be pulled off. I am currently on a dav code profile that is supposed to expire and the end of January. Thanks
 

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I just saw this, but I don't have time to properly respond. I will give your post some dedicated time here in the next 24 hours.
 

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Hello, i just started my 12th year in the ANG and im a ART. November of 2018 i tore my supraspinatus in my right shoulder and ended up having shoulder surgery march of 2019, i was a fairly major full thickness tear. It was LOD and i was put on Medcon orders for 7 months. I was released to self pt in october, but shortly after my recovery plateaued and i have pain lifting much weight, can barely do 10 pushups when i used to max out 65+ every pt test. Next week i am going back to the Dr to talk with him about the pain. To add to this, in july i was diagnosed with wolff parkinson white syndrome, a heart condition, and had an ablation in august, we had thought it had fixed it, but last week i had a SVT (supraventricular tacycardia) event so there may be some other issues there. Anyone have any idea what i may be looking at going forward? We are deploying in April, and i really want to go, its a lot of money and a chance to actually do the real job, im afraid im going to be pulled off. I am currently on a dav code profile that is supposed to expire and the end of January. Thanks
I am going to ask a few questions up front just to make sure I am tracking your situation better.

- Are you Guard or Reserves? The reason I ask is "i'm a ART" is typically reserved for Active Reserve Technician. If you are full time Guard, you are either GS/WS civilian or an AGR (Active Guard Reserve).

- Were you diagnosed with any of those heart conditions while in a Title 10 status? If not, can any of them be medically related back to a service connected condition?

As for your hope to go on deployment, unless something radically changes, it doesn't sound like that will be in the cards for you my friend. Your desire to go down range is commendable, but in your current condition, you are a liability to your brothers and sisters in arms. It's not impossible to deploy, but you should cage your expectations now so it doesn't mess you up later.

Your shoulder injury should be able to be fixed under your previous LOD. Your LOD allows you to receive care for that particular injury forever. It is a service connected injury. Talk to your MEDCON liaison to see how you can get back on MEDCON if you so desire. I would recommend it. It would also allow you to start getting that active duty money now, which sounds like was an incentive for the deployment.
 

Ullose272

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I am going to ask a few questions up front just to make sure I am tracking your situation better.

- Are you Guard or Reserves? The reason I ask is "i'm a ART" is typically reserved for Active Reserve Technician. If you are full time Guard, you are either GS/WS civilian or an AGR (Active Guard Reserve).

- Were you diagnosed with any of those heart conditions while in a Title 10 status? If not, can any of them be medically related back to a service connected condition?

As for your hope to go on deployment, unless something radically changes, it doesn't sound like that will be in the cards for you my friend. Your desire to go down range is commendable, but in your current condition, you are a liability to your brothers and sisters in arms. It's not impossible to deploy, but you should cage your expectations now so it doesn't mess you up later.

Your shoulder injury should be able to be fixed under your previous LOD. Your LOD allows you to receive care for that particular injury forever. It is a service connected injury. Talk to your MEDCON liaison to see how you can get back on MEDCON if you so desire. I would recommend it. It would also allow you to start getting that active duty money now, which sounds like was an incentive for the deployment.
I am Guard, and an ART WG-11, A-10 weapons. I was diagnosed with the heart condition while on medcon orders which i believe are title 32 but i'll have to look at the orders.

What do you think think chances of me being sent to an MEB?
 

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That is a really interesting combo. Typically, WG-11 positions have a TR position associated with it. Is it a title 5 WG-11 position?

MEDCON orders are title 10, so you will be good to go for the heart condition. You need to take a copy of your orders, showing service connected time frame, and your medical records to your local MTF. The local MTF is responsible for initiating your LOD. Look up AFI 36-2910 if you need to hold their feet to the fire.

As for a MEB, that is difficult to say. The Guard does everything in their power to just give people an Assignment Limiting Condition (ALC) code 3, meaning they are broke but can be used somewhere in the military. If you get pulled off of deployment, it will automatically trigger an Initial Review In Lieu Of (IRILO) discharge board. Your local MTF will be the initiator and then it will go to the Deployment Availability Working Group (DAWG). You should also be assigned a Physical Evaluation Board Liaison Officer (PEBLO).

Long story short, my guess is if it looks like you can be repaired, you will get more MEDCON and given an ALC. I didn't see anything that the Guard would recommend push to MEB.
 

Ullose272

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That is a really interesting combo. Typically, WG-11 positions have a TR position associated with it. Is it a title 5 WG-11 position?

MEDCON orders are title 10, so you will be good to go for the heart condition. You need to take a copy of your orders, showing service connected time frame, and your medical records to your local MTF. The local MTF is responsible for initiating your LOD. Look up AFI 36-2910 if you need to hold their feet to the fire.

As for a MEB, that is difficult to say. The Guard does everything in their power to just give people an Assignment Limiting Condition (ALC) code 3, meaning they are broke but can be used somewhere in the military. If you get pulled off of deployment, it will automatically trigger an Initial Review In Lieu Of (IRILO) discharge board. Your local MTF will be the initiator and then it will go to the Deployment Availability Working Group (DAWG). You should also be assigned a Physical Evaluation Board Liaison Officer (PEBLO).

Long story short, my guess is if it looks like you can be repaired, you will get more MEDCON and given an ALC. I didn't see anything that the Guard would recommend push to MEB.
Thanks for the info, i am title 32 technician
 

Ullose272

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Update, so in the last couple months ive been diagnosed with
-sleep apnea and being given a CPAP
-sinus tachycardia-im now on metoprolol so slow my heart rate and lessen the chance of future SVT events
-they found a small PFO in my heart- doctor said it wasnt a big deal
-had a cardiopulmonary exercise test today, the doctor said i have exercise induced bronchospasms, being prescribed albuterol and singulair

also had a appointment with my ortho for my shoulder and he said my shoulder could take up to another year to be pain free, but he feels its healing fine. i had a meeting with a on base PCM and they extended my 469 with full fitness restrictions, and duty restrictions until May, ive been on a 469 for over a year now. these diagnosises came after my meeting with the PCM. So it will be interesting to see what they say. Any thoughts?
 

eerf123

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Did you ever have an svt with syncope? That’s what put me into the MEB process when I had mine, even after a successful ablation.
 

Ullose272

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Did you ever have an svt with syncope? That’s what put me into the MEB process when I had mine, even after a successful ablation.
No, it's in my medical paperwork as near syncope. I get very dizzy and light headed.
 

eerf123

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You could check the MSD to be sure, but I think its based on number of SVTs and with or without syncope
 
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