Dependents wrong?

Spoofmastafly

Spoofmastafly

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So I'm collecting 60% disability from the VA, I assumed my claim was all done up correctly as we all do. Sure enough my dependents number was 1, not 4 like my original claim stated. My PEBLO and Case workers said it was correct when they submitted this. Anyway I believe I did the correct thing and submitted a Dependency claim through Ebenefits 10/03/13. I cannot believe this claim has still not been updated. Just a simple number change from 1 to 4.. Will I receive back pay for all the months this has been incorrect?

Claim Received: 10/03/2013
Claim Type: Dependency
Estimated Claim Completion Date: 04/13/2014 to 07/29/2014
 
Not as simple from 1 to 4, dependency claims are handled like any other claim at the VA, and is handle in the order it's received, they don't separate dependent claims from any other claim that is sent through but yes you will get back pay so 150$ each month since the date of the claim
 
They do that when u separate, mine was the same. They start you off with single pay and you have to apply for the dependents. They do retro pay, and as long as you upload the documents correctly with the dependency claim it should go fast. I just got through with mine this week.
 
No Slack Bayonet said:
They do that when u separate, mine was the same. They start you off with single pay and you have to apply for the dependents. They do retro pay, and as long as you upload the documents correctly with the dependency claim it should go fast. I just got through with mine this week.
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Negative, your dependency information is submitted prior to seperation along with DD 214 so that when your ratings are finalized that you will receive the correct compensation based on dependents, you don't start off with single pay unless you are single or your MSC didn't upload the dependency claim prior
 
Yea I'm guessing my MSC didn't upload it correctly even after I brought up this happening over and over again. Its been so long since I submitted this claim, that I can't remember what it even said. Just basically a form listing my dependents their relation and SSN correct? This should be a no brainier, since I've been Married since I was in the Marines and had both our children during service. They are even covered under Tricare now too.
 
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Spoofmastafly said:
Yea I'm guessing my MSC didn't upload it correctly even after I brought up this happening over and over again. Its been so long since I submitted this claim, that I can't remember what it even said. Just basically a form listing my dependents their relation and SSN correct? This should be a no brainier, since I've been Married since I was in the Marines and had both our children during service. They are even covered under Tricare now too.
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look brother, I'm not making it up my 199 said begin at single pay. Obviously i was married and had a kid before all of that started. My MSC may have been the best working for the VA to date. He told me that it would have to be uploaded when my rating was finalized, AKA what i just told this dude. Its not made up and it wasn't a mistake. The 214 was given to the VA and even the VA said once the claim was finalized that id have to file for dependents. Remember just because yours went one way that doesn't mean its the only way.
 
No Slack Bayonet said:
look brother, I'm not making it up my 199 said begin at single pay. Obviously i was married and had a kid before all of that started. My MSC may have been the best working for the VA to date. He told me that it would have to be uploaded when my rating was finalized, AKA what i just told this dude. Its not made up and it wasn't a mistake. The 214 was given to the VA and even the VA said once the claim was finalized that id have to file for dependents. Remember just because yours went one way that doesn't mean its the only way.
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I never said you making anything up, you was simply given the wrong information of when dependents are added, which in fact they are added prior to separation in order for them to current when rating are finalized.

You were simply given the wrong info, anybody on this forum who has been through this can back me up brother
 
No Slack Bayonet said:
look brother, I'm not making it up my 199 said begin at single pay. Obviously i was married and had a kid before all of that started. My MSC may have been the best working for the VA to date. He told me that it would have to be uploaded when my rating was finalized, AKA what i just told this dude. Its not made up and it wasn't a mistake. The 214 was given to the VA and even the VA said once the claim was finalized that id have to file for dependents. Remember just because yours went one way that doesn't mean its the only way.
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And yes 199 starts off at single pay, that's why dependency is completed during your exit interview prior to seperation, you don't have to wait to you get final ratings
 
Out of all of the people I've seen on here or yuku your the first to come across with having your defendants correct. I must have seen my exact case 50 times but cool
 
No Slack Bayonet said:
Out of all of the people I've seen on here or yuku your the first to come across with having your defendants correct. I must have seen my exact case 50 times but cool
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It's ok to accept that you were given the wrong information
 
FWIW, my case went through the same way...was processed as single, and I provided my PEBLO with me dependency information, then it was provided to my MSC, I watched him update it and I also uploaded it into eBenefits.

Ratings get finalized and low and behold I'm being paid at the single rate. VA stated that there was a discrepency when I was divorced from my first wife. Now they want me to provide them my divorce decree.

I feel like it is a conspiracy to deprive servicemembers out of dependents benefits.
 
gsfowler said:
FWIW, my case went through the same way...was processed as single, and I provided my PEBLO with me dependency information, then it was provided to my MSC, I watched him update it and I also uploaded it into eBenefits.

Ratings get finalized and low and behold I'm being paid at the single rate. VA stated that there was a discrepency when I was divorced from my first wife. Now they want me to provide them my divorce decree.

I feel like it is a conspiracy to deprive servicemembers out of dependents benefits.
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Hmm, it seems that you may have a valid point-of-fact with the entire DoVA dependency issue! :confused:

That said, I am still awaiting on DoVA final ratings completion then the jury shall be set as to the status of my DoVA dependency; more to come in the future! ;)

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer."

Best Wishes!
 
Status quo is what happened to me like i said. 98% of most cases get handled this way 2% actually get handled like engineers did. As a matter of fact his is one of the only ones I've heard of going that way. I had a phenomenal MSC, i still get help from the guy after being out 10 months, he said thats just the way it happens be prepared!
 
No Slack Bayonet said:
Status quo is what happened to me like i said. 98% of most cases get handled this way 2% actually get handled like engineers did. As a matter of fact his is one of the only ones I've heard of going that way. I had a phenomenal MSC, i still get help from the guy after being out 10 months, he said thats just the way it happens be prepared!
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The way yours went through is not how it happens, I don't cars how great your MSC is, I hate when someone will argue with you because they received the wrong informTion, once again YOU DO NO HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL YOU RECEIVE FINAL RATING TO ADD DEPENDENTS!! Now if a MSC doesn't handle the dependency claim correctly prior to separation then yes, but even if you caught that your MSC didn't handle it correctly, you can upload it yourself into ebenefits while your waiting for ratings to be finalized!

Now what I did to make sure I wasn't sound like a complete idiot since I'm here inpatient at the VAMC i went down to the DAV office here and he confirmed what I said here and also said regardless of whether you have a Vet claim or IDES (they call it DES) you Do not have to till you have official ratings in hand in order to complete the dependency, Veterans do it along with their initial claim and IDES does either prior to separation along with the DD214 or can be completed while ratings are being finalized

I also told him that your MSC and a VA rep gave you this wrong information, and the first thing he said was they both should be fired because if you wait till you have rating in hand to complete dependency you can wait up to 2 years for it to be completed
 
Well sadly as you can see on this website or the others, your case is in the serious minority compared to mine, his , gsfowlers and most of the rest of it. Now thats cool that its supposed to happen that way but unfortunately the other Va offices around our country may not be as squared away as Winston Salem. We can say whats supposed to happen but in the instance with this brother his case and mine were the same, and how i finished mine is probably how he should handle it! Granted props to you for getting squared away with good G2 but unfortunately for the most part we need to know how to fix the problems that arise from what the VA does wrong not try to correct people in the same situation with information thats obviously not gonna help them since they are out of the military and retired. Hope you get to feeling better sorry your inpatient, prayers for you and for your family.
 
No Slack Bayonet said:
Well sadly as you can see on this website or the others, your case is in the serious minority compared to mine, his , gsfowlers and most of the rest of it. Now thats cool that its supposed to happen that way but unfortunately the other Va offices around our country may not be as squared away as Winston Salem. We can say whats supposed to happen but in the instance with this brother his case and mine were the same, and how i finished mine is probably how he should handle it! Granted props to you for getting squared away with good G2 but unfortunately for the most part we need to know how to fix the problems that arise from what the VA does wrong not try to correct people in the same situation with information thats obviously not gonna help them since they are out of the military and retired. Hope you get to feeling better sorry your inpatient, prayers for you and for your family.
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GS fowler went through the same process as i did by doing his dependency claim prior to separation, the VA just dropped the ball in his case and didn't have his dependents added.What needs to be fixed is the handling of dependency claims after its submitted by MSC at the exit interview, I hate that you were told that you have to wait!

Thats the reason of the MSC exit interview, to get the direct deposit, DD214!

Also my claim went through Seattle and my exit interview was conducted at Bragg and Winston Salem is far from squared away, the DAV i asked the question is here in Richmond VA
 
Spoof dependency went through prior to separation also but the ball was dropped by the VA and when he got his final rating he only had 1 dependent not 4
 
Spoof dependency went through prior to separation also but the ball was dropped by the VA and when he got his final rating he only had 1 dependent not 4
 
Combat Eng said:
GS fowler went through the same process as i did by doing his dependency claim prior to separation, the VA just dropped the ball in his case and didn't have his dependents added.What needs to be fixed is the handling of dependency claims after its submitted by MSC at the exit interview, I hate that you were told that you have to wait!

Thats the reason of the MSC exit interview, to get the direct deposit, DD214!

Also my claim went through Seattle and my exit interview was conducted at Bragg and Winston Salem is far from squared away, the DAV i asked the question is here in Richmond VA
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The thing is, with my case, I gave the forms to my PEBLO to forward to my MSC, I was CC'd on the email from her to him, then I uploaded them to eBenefits myself because it said it still needed them, then I gave them to the MSC during my exit interview. I watched him upload them right in front of my eyes.

They got nearly everything correct (children were added but I do not get paid for them since they are getting chapter 35) however they failed to add my current wife of seven years, because they stated there was a discrepancy with the divorce date of my former spouse. Nowhere on the 21-686c did it state that a copy of a divorce decree was needed. Now they want me to file dependency with a new 21-686c and do a statement of facts stating the date I was divorced and provide a divorce decree.

I feel like this is a conspiracy. I know quite a few service-members who went through the IDES personally and not one of them had their dependents added prior to the claim being finalized.

It's kinda like SSDI, there is no rule stating you will get denied the first time, but it happens so often that it truly could be considered common practice.
 
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