Hello, I’m in the process for MEB. I need to figure out if I should choose LDES or IDES. I’m getting MEB for generalized anxiety disorder, ptsd due to mst, and premenstrual dysphoric disorder (PMS on steroid). MST happened in 2003, was told either to self refer or command directed to get MH eval. Long story short, I’ve been rated 70% for the condition I’m getting MEB’d and been in and out for outpatient MH throughout my military career. I’ve been seen at the VA for almost 7 years. Is it worth going IDES for this?
IDES vs LDES
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The short answer is YES. IDES is worth it. I know you will hear people say that you have already got rated by VA so go LDES but its a mistake. IDES has so many more protections. LDES is quicker but the reason they changed to IDES is because LDES gives you less rights and the DOD doesn't have to follow the VA's rating. I know some fear that they could come out of it with a lower rating by the VA but if you have the documentation are rated properly by the VA then there shouldn't be fear that somehow you will get rated less the 2nd time around. With some preparation and some research you may find that you might deserve a higher rating from the VA in the IDES process.
Thank you. I’ll update as I go through the process.
Hello, I apologize for the delayed response. I have medical documentation that mentioned of PMDD symptoms through out my career and just recently found significant relief from medications prescribed to me by the VA. I am assuming that because I have medical documentation that it was easy to prove my PMDD.
Hi! did you get a rating from PMDD? I hope it is not to personal, may I ask what has helped with alleviating the symptoms?
Hi, I got rated 70% VA for PMDD and PTSD. The thing that helps is psychotherapy and medication. Tracking my period also helps a lot because I know when the onset of my PMDD starts. I do let people know that I am on my PMS on steroid week. They tend to take it seriously rather than say PMDD.
Hello,
I finally receive my disposition from PEB. Results is permanently retired with 70% rating with a combined rating of 90% with the VA C&P. The military did not rate my PMDD as it didn’t pose significant risk for my military duties (which makes sense as I’m currently in the ANG on drill status).
My time line below if anyone is interested:
17 Dec 20: IDES/IRILO
12 MAy 21: MEB
8, 14, 23 June 21: Audiogram, MH, and GM appointment
24 Aug 21: Signed AF Form 618
25 Aug 21: MyPers notification for PEB
30 Aug 21: VA rating closed
10 Sep 21: MyPers and PEBLO notification of PEB findings.
Future:
13 Sep 21: Signed AF Form 356
TBD: Retirement orders (possibly 60 days after signing the AF 356)
Trying to calculate my retirement and not sure if I understood it correctly
18.8 years E7
Military Points:
Points/360 * 2.5%
5452/360*2.5 = 37.86%
$5039.10*37.86% = $1,907.80
OR
Military Disability
$5039.10 * 70% = $3527.30
With VA disability at 90%, that would mean that my extra payments will be:
$3527.30 - $2044 = $1500
Let me know if my calculations is incorrect. Thank you.
I finally receive my disposition from PEB. Results is permanently retired with 70% rating with a combined rating of 90% with the VA C&P. The military did not rate my PMDD as it didn’t pose significant risk for my military duties (which makes sense as I’m currently in the ANG on drill status).
My time line below if anyone is interested:
17 Dec 20: IDES/IRILO
12 MAy 21: MEB
8, 14, 23 June 21: Audiogram, MH, and GM appointment
24 Aug 21: Signed AF Form 618
25 Aug 21: MyPers notification for PEB
30 Aug 21: VA rating closed
10 Sep 21: MyPers and PEBLO notification of PEB findings.
Future:
13 Sep 21: Signed AF Form 356
TBD: Retirement orders (possibly 60 days after signing the AF 356)
Trying to calculate my retirement and not sure if I understood it correctly
18.8 years E7
Military Points:
Points/360 * 2.5%
5452/360*2.5 = 37.86%
$5039.10*37.86% = $1,907.80
OR
Military Disability
$5039.10 * 70% = $3527.30
With VA disability at 90%, that would mean that my extra payments will be:
$3527.30 - $2044 = $1500
Let me know if my calculations is incorrect. Thank you.
Those calculations look correct to me. You were so close to getting your 20 year letter! That stinks. You would have been eligible for for CRDP at age 60 if that had been the case.
Thank you! Unfortunately, the unit I’m currently attached to is so toxic that it’s getting harder to keep my military bearing especially as an E7. My knee pads is so worn out that it’s time to retire it, but jokes aside, it was fun while it lasted but it’s getting difficult to stay positive. About to start a new job and this welcoming news is a huge relief off my shoulders. This forum helped me a lot and I’m glad I came here before making that LDES vs IDES decision. It was worth the wait.
I am sorry to hear about your unit. Unfortunately I have heard that a lot lately. The military has changed and a lot of the good people are getting out leaving only A-holes... (My personal opinion). I am glad you are getting out soon and that you achieved satisfactory results!
I second your opinion. They’re promoting people in leadership that doesn’t have business to be in that position. Guard is a different kind of beast coming from a prior AD.
Hello, this is my updated timeline if anyone is interested. I just got notified that my orders is now available and I will be retiring in 2 weeks! I just want to thank Provis for the advise to go to IDES route. Thank you again.
17 Dec 20: IDES/IRILO
12 MAy 21: MEB
8, 14, 23 June 21: Audiogram, MH, and GM appointment
24 Aug 21: Signed AF Form 618
25 Aug 21: MyPers notification for PEB
30 Aug 21: VA rating closed
10 Sep 21: MyPers and PEBLO notification of PEB findings.
13 Sep 21: Signed AF Form 356
9 Oct 21: Retirement orders
17 Dec 20: IDES/IRILO
12 MAy 21: MEB
8, 14, 23 June 21: Audiogram, MH, and GM appointment
24 Aug 21: Signed AF Form 618
25 Aug 21: MyPers notification for PEB
30 Aug 21: VA rating closed
10 Sep 21: MyPers and PEBLO notification of PEB findings.
13 Sep 21: Signed AF Form 356
9 Oct 21: Retirement orders
Does this mean you are going to bring in just $1500 a month?
I’m getting approx $3,100. I am receiving 90% from the VA and my retirement pay will offset the difference. I am not getting both because I did not retire at 20 years and I am not eligible for CRSC.
Hello @DollyPawton and @HEADSPACEnTIMING
I am not sure if I understand some of the comments in this thread. It is quite possible they are accurate, and I just misread them.
Some facts.
1. Retired pay does not reduce VA compensation.
2. If one chooses to receive VA compensation, they must waive retired pay (not VA compensation) dollar for dollar in the amount of VA compensation received. If there is any residual retired pay (left over from the reduction/waiver/offset), the retiree gets to keep it.
3. I have never seen one case where it was more advantageous to decline VA comp. Why? Because the retiree gets to keep the retired pay that exceeds the amount of VA comp. See item 2.
4. In computing retired pay, the average high three is used NOT the final pay (there was an exception decades ago). The average high three is the total of the highest 36 months of retired pay divided by 36.
5. Converting points to active duty equivalent is like what was shown on one of the preceding posts (i.e., total creditable points divided by 360).
6. If an individual had selected the Blended Retirement Program 2% is used instead of 2.5%
7. My commentary does not include info or consideration of potential CRDP or CRSC.
Regards,
Ron
I am not sure if I understand some of the comments in this thread. It is quite possible they are accurate, and I just misread them.
Some facts.
1. Retired pay does not reduce VA compensation.
2. If one chooses to receive VA compensation, they must waive retired pay (not VA compensation) dollar for dollar in the amount of VA compensation received. If there is any residual retired pay (left over from the reduction/waiver/offset), the retiree gets to keep it.
3. I have never seen one case where it was more advantageous to decline VA comp. Why? Because the retiree gets to keep the retired pay that exceeds the amount of VA comp. See item 2.
4. In computing retired pay, the average high three is used NOT the final pay (there was an exception decades ago). The average high three is the total of the highest 36 months of retired pay divided by 36.
5. Converting points to active duty equivalent is like what was shown on one of the preceding posts (i.e., total creditable points divided by 360).
6. If an individual had selected the Blended Retirement Program 2% is used instead of 2.5%
7. My commentary does not include info or consideration of potential CRDP or CRSC.
Regards,
Ron
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Who says you're not eligible for CRSC?
Sorry for the late response. I meant CDRP not CRSC. I don’t have combat related disabilities, so CRSC is not an option.
Speaking of CSRC, a friend was medically retired at 30% in 2013 with a purple heart medal. I believe he’s currently rated 100% at the VA. Is he eligible for CRSC? The 30% was not tied to combat related disabilities, so he’s unsure if it’s worth applying for it. Input is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Speaking of CSRC, a friend was medically retired at 30% in 2013 with a purple heart medal. I believe he’s currently rated 100% at the VA. Is he eligible for CRSC? The 30% was not tied to combat related disabilities, so he’s unsure if it’s worth applying for it. Input is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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It's not the 30%, it's the 100% from the VA that gets tied to being combat-related, not to mention the fact he has a Purple Heart so his chances for a good CRSC approval are there, it just depends on what, if any, of his VA-rated conditions are tied to the instance that got him the PH
oh really it's the 100% on the VA side that CRSC looks at, hmmm that's interesting. I think I was watching a presentation on Youtube about CRSC. They was talking about how the CRSC raters doesn't really care what VA says are Combat related, CRSC make their own determination on what they believe are combat related. It's strange. Is there a place to see if your VA ratings are rated as combat related or not? because my VA decision letters definitely doesn't say nothing about combat