I am a AF Reservist I have been in for 10yrs but was in IRR for 3 yrs. I came on orders in 2007 I got ill after all the treatments and procedures I was then dignoised with Major Depression the LOD for that came back EPTS which I am tring to appeal the unit is saying that I already had it looked at a second time cause when it first came back I pointed out that they had put down that I was on orders for only one day and I askked them to fix it to show I had been on orders for over 2 yrs.so they changed the dates and added the missing orders I have went and got new evidence and added it and sent it up for a appeal not sure they will lookk at it again since they are saying i already had a reinvestagation. There is nothing in my medical record about depression so how can they say EPTS I am very confussied. In the mean while I am still under going physical therapy for my shoulder ( the lod for shoulder said in the line of duty) The active duty clinic said I was no longer code 37 cause my shoulder injury and pain meds will not stop me from doing my job even though I do not have range of motion,and the unit Doc says I am none deployabled because of the pain meds I am on and that I need to see a pain specialist. My unit removed me from orders and then put me back on code 37 and have started a WWD on me I asked why I was not being able to finish treatment for my shoulder and was told I could go to the VA I also asked why they were not doing a MEB for my in the line of duty issues and got no answer, I know the reg says I should not have been taken off orders but they do not care and they have asked me to sign a WWD briefing I told them that I could not sign until I seek some advise can someone give me some help on what I can do.
Can some one help me
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Have you taken your case to the top person in your command yet as instructed by Ruptured Duck below (0-6 and above)? It sounds as if the lower chain has failed you already. It's just a matter of making an appointment and bringing the references about orders with you. Have you submitted a complaint to your Congressman with the references from Ruptured Duck? That would put a fire under the butts to do the right thing. If all else fails, you could start a case in Federal Claims court for wrongful discharge with legal expenses paid courtesy of Uncle Sam. Jason Perry on this site has taken this route to help others.
Hello all, Raptured Duck I am having a problem with my command as far as being put on orders. They state that since I am a Mday soldier I can not be put on orders. I am in the Florida National Guard and I was involved in a MVA in Dec. 05 sustaining Back and Neck injuries. I tried to continue drilling but the pain has gotten unbearable. I am in the MEB process where I have completed all of my physicals. At no point was I put on orders for more that 30 days. I have not drilled since Mar. 10, and I have not worked in the last 2 months because of these injuries. I have had to travel to Ft. Steward on 3 times for physicals and the only thing I was paid for was milage. Is the requirement when you are injured and have a LOD you have to have been on orders for 30 days or more? When I was involved in the MVA I was on orders for 72 hours.
why777,
I have been away for nearly 2 months and just catching up on some post I was involved with. Anyways, from what I am reading it is not clear whether you are doing EVERYTHING which has been suggested. Since your last post was 3 weeks ago please update and let me know what your current status is.
I'm very curious about your case because it is clear to me someone in your chain of command is dropping the ball (not at all surprised). From your last response I can tell you that the FIRST thing you needed to do is send the letter stating regulations and possible laws being violated to your senior command staff AND your congressman/senator. Don't beat around the bush---DO IT!-- It does not sound as if you've done this yet.
As I mentioned in previous post the IG is a waste of time. What you need is someone cooperating, backing you up, DOING THEIR JOB, or at least understanding your situation at LOCAL command level. If this happens they will find a way to keep you on orders through RUMP, other manday orders, etc until you are correctly placed on MEDCON orders, which is where you should remain until the entire DES is accomplished. These orders are also a pain in the butt because they must be renewed constantly, and believe me they can drop the ball on this as well. You have to keep on top of them!--The point is you MUST be retained on active orders. IF, ON THE OTHER HAND no one listens at your local command then they are kowtowing to the AFSG office and not doing the right thing. Some command structures have the "cohones" to do the right thing despite rubbing others the wrong way. My Command did, and if yours does not then indeed you may have to pursue legally. It may also be worth a shot to have a lawyer write up a complaint to your command---maybe, just maybe they will move to keep you on orders at that time. But as I said before the CONGRESSIONAL INQUIRY usually also has the same effect.--I realize you are going through depression but I would suggest letting this issue boost rather than depress your mood. Indeed, get angry, as I did!---Remember, you are in the RIGHT---these are not merely words--it is fact. Your "job" now is to make sure others become aware. There is a lot of ignorance out there with respect to the DES and how it relates to the Reserves, etc.---so begin to enlighten them.
I have been away for nearly 2 months and just catching up on some post I was involved with. Anyways, from what I am reading it is not clear whether you are doing EVERYTHING which has been suggested. Since your last post was 3 weeks ago please update and let me know what your current status is.
I'm very curious about your case because it is clear to me someone in your chain of command is dropping the ball (not at all surprised). From your last response I can tell you that the FIRST thing you needed to do is send the letter stating regulations and possible laws being violated to your senior command staff AND your congressman/senator. Don't beat around the bush---DO IT!-- It does not sound as if you've done this yet.
As I mentioned in previous post the IG is a waste of time. What you need is someone cooperating, backing you up, DOING THEIR JOB, or at least understanding your situation at LOCAL command level. If this happens they will find a way to keep you on orders through RUMP, other manday orders, etc until you are correctly placed on MEDCON orders, which is where you should remain until the entire DES is accomplished. These orders are also a pain in the butt because they must be renewed constantly, and believe me they can drop the ball on this as well. You have to keep on top of them!--The point is you MUST be retained on active orders. IF, ON THE OTHER HAND no one listens at your local command then they are kowtowing to the AFSG office and not doing the right thing. Some command structures have the "cohones" to do the right thing despite rubbing others the wrong way. My Command did, and if yours does not then indeed you may have to pursue legally. It may also be worth a shot to have a lawyer write up a complaint to your command---maybe, just maybe they will move to keep you on orders at that time. But as I said before the CONGRESSIONAL INQUIRY usually also has the same effect.--I realize you are going through depression but I would suggest letting this issue boost rather than depress your mood. Indeed, get angry, as I did!---Remember, you are in the RIGHT---these are not merely words--it is fact. Your "job" now is to make sure others become aware. There is a lot of ignorance out there with respect to the DES and how it relates to the Reserves, etc.---so begin to enlighten them.
The problem with filing a congressional compliant is the state and the unit just blame the Air Force because they control the money for MEDCON they get off free and clear. I was on tile 10 contingency orders over 30 days I was taken off orders with an LOD a 469 with a code 37 I fought to stay on orders after a month they put me back on my original orders when my orders ended I was never extended. I was still being treated going to or three days a week receiving injections. It has been over a year I now back on Medcon I just received the first HTO high tibia osteotomy right knee my medcon is for 60 days my recovery is a year long and I am having my left knee done in 6 months. Can they retire or seperate me while I am being treated?