Commanders impact statement

[RogerDayton]

Hello all,

I just found out my commander sent my PEBLO his Commanders Impact Statement. I had no clue he already did it, it was my understanding that my commander should have consulted me before sending this up.

I'm in the process of trying to receive this statement so that I can read over it to see if I agree or not. I trust my Commander but I do not think he truly understands how my condition affects me on a day to day basis because I hide it a lot and push through pain Proably more than I should so he truly does not know.

My concern is what he put on the statement and if I can get ahold of this and if so if I don't agree with the statement can I have a sit down with him to let him know how this effects me daily and he can re do this statement?

If so when does this statement need to be re done by? I am currently doing my C&P exams and have two left next week and that's it. So what would be the correct course of action?

 

[DaveK]

Hello all,

I just found out my commander sent my PEBLO his Commanders Impact Statement. I had no clue he already did it, it was my understanding that my commander should have consulted me before sending this up.

I'm in the process of trying to receive this statement so that I can read over it to see if I agree or not. I trust my Commander but I do not think he truly understands how my condition affects me on a day to day basis because I hide it a lot and push through pain Proably more than I should so he truly does not know.

My concern is what he put on the statement and if I can get ahold of this and if so if I don't agree with the statement can I have a sit down with him to let him know how this effects me daily and he can re do this statement?

If so when does this statement need to be re done by? I am currently doing my C&P exams and have two left next week and that's it. So what would be the correct course of action?

What branch? S-1 dept will have the cmd statement. In the Army Guard its the S-1 MSC (which is different from the IDES VA MSC).

 

[RogerDayton]

What branch? S-1 dept will have the cmd statement. In the Army Guard its the S-1 MSC (which is different from the IDES VA MSC).

I am Army Active Duty. Why would my S-1 have it if he sent it to my PEBLO? S-1 has nothing to do with my MEB

 

[DaveK]

I am Army Active Duty. Why would my S-1 have it if he sent it to my PEBLO? S-1 has nothing to do with my MEB

I understand the reserve side does not have an S-1 MSC as the guard does. Guessing active does not as well then. However, I understood all MEB/PEB paperwork passed through the S-1. In my case the S-1 is actually who built the entire packet and got it submitted. The S-1 also serves as my primary point of contact through this whole process.

Whatever section put your packet together would be the one that has it. What section did that for you?

 

[RogerDayton]

I understand the reserve side does not have an S-1 MSC as the guard does. Guessing active does not as well then. However, I understood all MEB/PEB paperwork passed through the S-1. In my case the S-1 is actually who built the entire packet and got it submitted. The S-1 also serves as my primary point of contact through this whole process.

Whatever section put your packet together would be the one that has it. What section did that for you?

I think you're a little confused. Above duty S1 has nothing to do with the MEB process

 

[DaveK]

Respectfully, no, I'm not confused. Very familiar with this process after many years of being in it and helping others along. Just trying to help you.

And no, the S-1 department absolutely is still apart of the process. The S-1 collects all the administrative and medical paperwork and then submits everything up to include CMD statements, LODs, profiles, personal narrative statements, VA documents even and all other supporting paperwork. It is known as Pre-MEB in the guard. As the S-1 is HR they will track and follow MEB/PEB process for a soldier. The S-1 ensures all claimed conditions were listed and all documents were uploaded to Tricare Online and the other parallel systems.They will and have intervened when there are any delays requiring their attention to include missing paperwork or if the soldier requires another medical profile. They will also manage travel. Once the MEB/PEB process finalizes the S-1 will collect up all that documentation and ensure that it gets to the separation, return to duty, or retirement sections and wherever else it needs to go. For us in the guard, that's a civilian department that needs to receive that documentation following the MEB/PEB for retirement. And yes just like many areas the MEB/PEB is it own element which the S-1 is separate from but observes and tracks.

Again, someone in some department collects up, submits, and tracks the MEB/PEB process for active soldiers. Whatever that section or dept is called is where all your stuff is. If that doesn't work, simply go back to the commander that wrote it.

 

[DaveK]

Reached out to my S-1 MSC. She told me on the active side the equivalent would be the brigade readiness NCO who should have access to a complete copy of your IDES packet to include your cmd statement.

A few weeks back my cmd statement expired with my PEBLO reaching out. My S-1 MSC resolved it providing an updated copy.

In my case my cmd statement is very generic as I have not had a commander in a long while who knows me as they all mostly retired. My statement is signed by someone of the same rank even. But for most the document carries a lot of weight and it's worth looking into.

Best of luck to ya.

 

[RogerDayton]

Reached out to my S-1 MSC. She told me on the active side the equivalent would be the brigade readiness NCO who should have access to a complete copy of your IDES packet to include your cmd statement.

A few weeks back my cmd statement expired with my PEBLO reaching out. My S-1 MSC resolved it providing an updated copy.

In my case my cmd statement is very generic as I have not had a commander in a long while who knows me as they all mostly retired. My statement is signed by someone of the same rank even. But for most the document carries a lot of weight and it's worth looking into.

Best of luck to ya.

This is very interesting, no one has ever mentioned this before. Thank you for this information. However I was able to get the cmd statement and it was pretty good so I have no worries

 

[DaveK]

This is very interesting, no one has ever mentioned this before. Thank you for this information. However I was able to get the cmd statement and it was pretty good so I have no worries

Glad you got it worked out.

 

[PolloxTroy08]

Roger

Hello all,

I just found out my commander sent my PEBLO his Commanders Impact Statement. I had no clue he already did it, it was my understanding that my commander should have consulted me before sending this up.

I'm in the process of trying to receive this statement so that I can read over it to see if I agree or not. I trust my Commander but I do not think he truly understands how my condition affects me on a day to day basis because I hide it a lot and push through pain Proably more than I should so he truly does not know.

My concern is what he put on the statement and if I can get ahold of this and if so if I don't agree with the statement can I have a sit down with him to let him know how this effects me daily and he can re do this statement?

If so when does this statement need to be re done by? I am currently doing my C&P exams and have two left next week and that's it. So what would be the correct course of action?

I'm going through the MEB currently at Fort Liberty. I'm also have worked in S1 for 20 years. I've never seen active duty S1 be involved with the Medboard/IDES process in any capacity; working in HR, I would sometimes fill out administrative data for the Company Commander, but that is it. From my knowledge, including with what happened in my case, my CO sent the impact statement directly to the PEBLO. With that said, your PEBLO may provide you with a copy of it. However, in my case which is likely the norm, when you receive your NARSUM from the MEB, your commander's impact statement will be included (with comments by the MEB). From my understanding, the CO can then update his impact statement as part of your rebuttal. I'm actually trying to find out more about this as my CO's comments weren't great. I spoke to him about it and he claims he misunderstood some of the questions. My PEBLO is out of the office, but I should get an answer on Tuesday about how updating it and will let you know what I hear. However, just in case he tries to screw me, I went ahead and got a memo from my 1SG that provides a more accurate assessment.

 

[DaveK]

Roger

I'm going through the MEB currently at Fort Liberty. I'm also have worked in S1 for 20 years. I've never seen active duty S1 be involved with the Medboard/IDES process in any capacity; working in HR, I would sometimes fill out administrative data for the Company Commander, but that is it. From my knowledge, including with what happened in my case, my CO sent the impact statement directly to the PEBLO. With that said, your PEBLO may provide you with a copy of it. However, in my case which is likely the norm, when you receive your NARSUM from the MEB, your commander's impact statement will be included (with comments by the MEB). From my understanding, the CO can then update his impact statement as part of your rebuttal. I'm actually trying to find out more about this as my CO's comments weren't great. I spoke to him about it and he claims he misunderstood some of the questions. My PEBLO is out of the office, but I should get an answer on Tuesday about how updating it and will let you know what I hear. However, just in case he tries to screw me, I went ahead and got a memo from my 1SG that provides a more accurate assessment.

Still curious then who collects up and builds the active duty packets? All the administrative paperwork, LODs, profiles, medical docs, actual submission/flagging into the MEB/PEB itself..etc all come from different departments for the guard. So someone has to pull it and put it all together. For us it's called Pre-MEB and IDRM.

 

[PolloxTroy08]

Still curious then who collects up and builds the active duty packets? All the administrative paperwork, LODs, profiles, medical docs, actual submission/flagging into the MEB/PEB itself..etc all come from different departments for the guard. So someone has to pull it and put it all together. For us it's called Pre-MEB and IDRM.

The PEBLO does.

 

[DaveK]

Gotcha, for us the PEBLO is in the MEB/PEB system only. So there is no contact from them till well after someone is flagged, a packet is assembled and then a decision is made on whether or not to submit the soldier to the IDES process. Seems odd that no one in the active Army can access a services members info that got them sent to the IDES. For us, that's what HR is for.

 

[PolloxTroy08]

Gotcha, for us the PEBLO is in the MEB/PEB system only. So there is no contact from them till well after someone is flagged, a packet is assembled and then a decision is made on whether or not to submit the soldier to the IDES process. Seems odd that no one in the active Army can access a services members info that got them sent to the IDES. For us, that's what HR is for.

From my experience on active duty, once a Soldier reaches the Medical Retention Determination Point (MRDP) their physician refers their case for a MEB (reviewed by higher level physicians). If agreed, the MEB starts and the Soldier is assigned a PEBLO who gathers all required medical and personnel documents; they get some personnel documents from the Soldier but they have access to some stuff. The Soldier decides if they wanted to do IDES or LDES. If IDES, they claim their disabilities through the VA MSC and conduct C&P exams. The MEB then reviews their medical history, C&P exams, and commander's statement and determines if the case should be sent to the PEB to determine fitness. This determination is listed in the NARSUM which is in a packet with things like the Soldier's profile, commander's impact statement, and the DBQ exams. The Soldier then can request an IMR, rebut the MEB findings, or proceed with the MEB's decision (generally have the case sent to the IPEB.)

Perhaps active duty S1/HR is not involved because pretty much everyone on active duty is assigned to a major installation that has PEBLOs/Civilian Installation HR.

 

[DaveK]

From my experience on active duty, once a Soldier reaches the Medical Retention Determination Point (MRDP) their physician refers their case for a MEB (reviewed by higher level physicians). If agreed, the MEB starts and the Soldier is assigned a PEBLO who gathers all required medical and personnel documents; they get some personnel documents from the Soldier but they have access to some stuff. The Soldier decides if they wanted to do IDES or LDES. If IDES, they claim their disabilities through the VA MSC and conduct C&P exams. The MEB then reviews their medical history, C&P exams, and commander's statement and determines if the case should be sent to the PEB to determine fitness. This determination is listed in the NARSUM which is in a packet with things like the Soldier's profile, commander's impact statement, and the DBQ exams. The Soldier then can request an IMR, rebut the MEB findings, or proceed with the MEB's decision (generally have the case sent to the IPEB.)

Perhaps active duty S1/HR is not involved because pretty much everyone on active duty is assigned to a major installation that has PEBLOs/Civilian Installation HR.

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Thanks for the clarification. That really helps me as I'm trying to answer questions for a friend that moved over to the reserves from the guard. And I suspect they would follow the active path over the guards way.

Makes sense as you stated with active having access via installations and PEBLOs unlike the vast majority of guard members.