CRSC - training injury/disability

Unistic

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Hello,
I was told about CRSC, for people who were medically retired. The Airforce has a website where you can submit your application for it but it requires information. Is there a known way to get your IDES/PEB paper work? No longer have that. And the CRSC regs say its for injuries from combat and it also list injuries obtained from simulated combat training.:
  • Armed Conflict
  • Hazardous Duty
  • An Instrumentality of War
  • Simulated War ( i'm assuming training here)

So I would like to list those that fall in both categories to increase my odds. My DD form 214 has a separation code of SEJ:
permanent disability (enhanced). Enhanced separation codes denote combat-related disabilities.

But I lack the evidence to upload with the form. I think my IDES paper work listed a few. And when I go to va.gov and look at my records i can ctrl+F and locate my injuries and in the statements it says how I obtained them but idk if that's enough.
Again I've located the AirForce mypers sight where I can upload my forms and supporting documents. I just don't know what documents exactly to increase my changes. Plus I was retired over 7 years ago so that would be hefty backpack, currently rated 100 percent through the VA.
Thank you!
 
Hello,

Here is a collection of CRSC information that you might find helpful:
Contemporary CRSC Information--Also See Update at Bottom of this Resource Page <---LINK

Most military CRSC web pages contain info about what is necessary to support an application. They are linked at the page cited above.
The two best (in my opinion) are the Army's and the USAF).

I do not know where you can get a copy of PEB documents. Maybe someone else can offer that information. Did you look at your VA documentation on eBenefits? Perhaps something there will help. See VA.gov Home | Veterans Affairs <---LINK

CRSC is not limited to those with a disability retirement. There are many that had a regular retirement, such as myself, who receive CRSC. Obviously, I did not have any PEB documents to submit.

Good luck,
Ron
 
Thank you for responding, really appreciate it.

I was just going by the listed items. I was medicallly retired years ago so I'm fine not sending in the PEB documents. It also ask for my initial VA disability ratings and a current one. Don't have either lol planning on calling the VA and seeing if they can send it to me along with the VAAR identifiers. The minimal evidence I have is if I look at my VA medical history, I can find the information where it states, " I said i receive injury at this place/event and was treated at this facility at X amount of time.

Does my DD214 having that seperation code, clearly means that the DoD consider an injury combat related and that's why I was awarded the 70 percent medical permanent retirement? I would go to my VSO at the VA hospital but won't be able to get someone to drive me that far for another two weeks.

From your experience what do you think I should submit, I won't hold it against you or take it as literal advice, just your opinion. Thank you!
 
Thank you for responding, really appreciate it.

I was just going by the listed items. I was medicallly retired years ago so I'm fine not sending in the PEB documents. It also ask for my initial VA disability ratings and a current one. Don't have either lol planning on calling the VA and seeing if they can send it to me along with the VAAR identifiers. The minimal evidence I have is if I look at my VA medical history, I can find the information where it states, " I said i receive injury at this place/event and was treated at this facility at X amount of time.

Does my DD214 having that seperation code, clearly means that the DoD consider an injury combat related and that's why I was awarded the 70 percent medical permanent retirement? I would go to my VSO at the VA hospital but won't be able to get someone to drive me that far for another two weeks.

From your experience what do you think I should submit, I won't hold it against you or take it as literal advice, just your opinion. Thank you!
Some general comments:

1. My case was simple because most of my disabilities were caused by exposure to Agent Orange in Vietnam.

2. I mentioned that the Army and the USAF have the best CRSC sites (for branches of the military)--my opinion. I know the Army has a list of what should be submitted to support one's application. I suspect the AF does as well. It would not hurt to look at both sites.

3. I have not looked at eBenefits recently but there is certain personal info that can be downloaded that might be of help. My VA ratings and the narratives were the main supporting info for CRSC. The documents were received via snail mail and the info on eBenefits is much less. You have to submit your VA rating documents anyway. Recommend you send the board a copy of all the info in the award letter received in the mail.

4. I have never worked on a CRSC board, so I have no inside info.

Good luck,
Ron
 
@Unistic

You might have already seen this list provided by the AF:

Applying for CRSC: DD Form 2860 must be submitted to the Air Force’s Personnel Center CRSC office at Joint Base San Antonio-Randolph, Texas for an eligible retiree to be considered along with the following documents:

Essential Documents:

  • All available DD 214s/215s
  • Veterans Affairs (VA) Narrative Rating Decisions.
Highly Recommended Documents:

  • Initial doctor’s visit note from in-service medical record after receiving claimed injury
  • Award Certificates and Citation narratives
  • Military Orders
  • AF Form 356 from Physical Evaluation Board Proceedings
Suggested Documents:

  • Military audio examinations (if claiming impaired Hearing and/or Tinnitus)
  • Clinical Record or note from initial doctor’s visit after receiving claimed injury
  • Sick Slips
  • Western Union Casualty Notification Telegrams
  • Officer Record Brief (ORB)
  • Enlisted Record Brief (ERB)
The completed CRSC claim must be sent to the CRSC office at:

Department of the Air Force
HQ AFPC/DPFDC (CRSC)
550 C Street West
JBSA-Randolph, TX 78150-4708

Ron
 
Thanks again,
And for future references for other, using Milconnect, I was able to request my PEB results/exit C&P exams with ratings. I don't know the actuall file I requested but its under document request same place you would request your DD214. But if Im reading it right. None of my injuries say combat related. They do mention me being injured there i.e where it happens but the box of combat related isn't check. Even once in a pre-deployment training I had a server concussion that resulted in a black out, 36 stitches, a permanent baldspot, and five days in the hospital. That would be consider a training injury in simulated combat. Yet my PEB doesn't have the box for anything combat related to them it didn't result in my retirement until the issues grow (mentally). So with that I don't think I would qualify.
 
This is excellent: "And for future references for other, using Milconnect, I was able to request my PEB results/exit C&P exams with ratings. I don't know the actuall file I requested but its under document request same place you would request your DD214."

edited to add: It does no harm if one applies and the application is denied.

Ron
 
You're right, but I was hoping to provide undeniable proof which would with increase my odds of approval. But not when my PEB states that I was medical retired but it then puts no in the areas that mention combat related. Yet my issues originated while in combat or training simulated combat.
Which makes me believe that my separation code SEJ, permanent disability (enhanced) denoting combat related injuries, is just generic. I can't find any documents that explains this code past what I've posted here. They could have used the other seperation code SFJ, permanent disability, and it doesn't haven enchance meaning non combat related.

Would you know any resources that goes into detail? I'm actually going to call up the AFI people and ask them directly, why not. Can't find any online available resources.

Regardless, thank you for your time!
 
You're right, but I was hoping to provide undeniable proof which would with increase my odds of approval. But not when my PEB states that I was medical retired but it then puts no in the areas that mention combat related. Yet my issues originated while in combat or training simulated combat.
Which makes me believe that my separation code SEJ, permanent disability (enhanced) denoting combat related injuries, is just generic. I can't find any documents that explains this code past what I've posted here. They could have used the other seperation code SFJ, permanent disability, and it doesn't haven enchance meaning non combat related.

Would you know any resources that goes into detail? I'm actually going to call up the AFI people and ask them directly, why not. Can't find any online available resources.

Regardless, thank you for your time!
I would not mind helping, but my action would be limited to using Google and trying different terms to find an appropriate answer.

Here is another comment by an associate on another board: "Now the pre deployment injury sounds like it maybe combat related due to the simulation of combat ops."

Ron
 
You're right, but I was hoping to provide undeniable proof which would with increase my odds of approval. But not when my PEB states that I was medical retired but it then puts no in the areas that mention combat related. Yet my issues originated while in combat or training simulated combat.
Which makes me believe that my separation code SEJ, permanent disability (enhanced) denoting combat related injuries, is just generic. I can't find any documents that explains this code past what I've posted here. They could have used the other seperation code SFJ, permanent disability, and it doesn't haven enchance meaning non combat related.

Would you know any resources that goes into detail? I'm actually going to call up the AFI people and ask them directly, why not. Can't find any online available resources.

Regardless, thank you for your time!
I have discovered that my code is also listed as SEJ, but as far as I'm aware none of mine would count towards combat. Though I am too very interested in this question as if I could qualify to get some of my DOD retirement pay as well that would help our financial situation out a lot.

18 years USAF AD Jan 2001 - March2019, med boarded, DOD medical retirement at 60%, VA at 100%.
 
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