HELP! (AF) IPEB results make no sense, FPEB Pending

USAFGamecocks

USAFGamecocks

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I have been in the AF for 18 1/2 years and I am going through my Med Board. My MEB process has taken over 2 years due to my PEBLO and my PCM losing my entire MEB package 3 times. I am being boarded for deteriorating back condition (accident on duty doing my job), Hypersomnia, multiple hernias, and shattered wrist. When my IPEB results came back I was Cat 1 for my wrist, my Hypersomnia was Cat 2 as a "Depressive Disorder" (which it is NOT a Depressive Disorder), they had arthritis in my shoulders as a Cat 2 (that wasn't even something I was being boarded for, my back wasn't even listed under a Category and neither was my hernias. The offer I received from the IPEB was Separation, Severance, & 10%. I am meeting the Formal Board next week in San Antonio. I want to stay in and finish the last 18 months in order to reach 20. I have multiple letters of recommendation from supervision saying the Air Force should keep me. I have a desk job. What is my best strategy for arguing to stay in? I could REALLY use some advice.
 
I have been reading other posts and I have read that due to my case being under the new IDES system it is difficult to argue percentages and condition categories. If this is the case I am guessing that Fit vs Unfit is going to be my best strategy. Any thoughts?
 
Gamecock...Thanks for sharing your information. I do know of an Airmen who was stationed overseas and she ended up with a good percentage of a medical retirement percentage and VA percentage. I do believe the she indicated at 90% disability and other VA medical benefits for life. This great because of the continue medical treatment need as a civilian. She was found unfit for duty but a good thing as well.

Crome
Semper Fi
 
Crome,

Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, I am looking at Separation, Severance and 10%. My concern is the medical treatment I am going to need from here on out. With only 10% that means med benefits will be out of my own pocket.
 
USAFGamecocks said:
Crome,

Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, I am looking at Separation, Severance and 10%. My concern is the medical treatment I am going to need from here on out. With only 10% that means med benefits will be out of my own pocket.
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Gamecocks, I got you and understand. I do believe that you have medical bennys from the VA when you get out as well. You might be able to buy into a Tri-care medical plan to assist you with medical cost when you get out. I would contact the VA and Tri-care. Also, make sure that you get a copy of all of your medical and dental records before you get out and keep those for your records. Lastly, when you talk with the VA and Tri-care, have your records in front of you so that you might clearify things to those peps.

Crome
Semper Fi
 
USAFGamecocks said:
Crome,

Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, I am looking at Separation, Severance and 10%. My concern is the medical treatment I am going to need from here on out. With only 10% that means med benefits will be out of my own pocket.
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Gamecocks, let me be real clear with you....meaning get a copy of your medical and dental records. You unit medical may or may not make copys of your medical and dental records. But you sure can sign them out and go make copies yourself. Meaning .....on your own dime. Just go to a copy center "Staples or Office Depot" and they will make copies for you at your cost. It will pay off in the long run when you are a civilian.

Crome
Semper Fi
 
It would help if you can tell us what the board found you "fit" or "unfit" for. Once we see that, we can better help you. They look at fitness as whether the disability affected your ability to perform your job. They also have to consider if it affected your ability to complete basic airman tasks.

As far as medical, no you won't have tricare if you are separated with severance, As Chrome45 said, you can purchase tricare, but it will be expensive. If you are rated above 50% by the VA, they will cover all your medical needs for life, but not family members. In my experience, the VA has been awesome and I rarely use tricare for myself.
 
If you are over 18 AFS (as it appears you are) you should be able to obtain COAD/COAR orders to finish your 20. Engage your Chain of Command for support, doesn't make any sense to get off AD when you are this close to retirement.
 
Crome,

I have a copy of my full medical records, I have read where many people have recommended that on here.

Ranger,

If I am reading my paperwork correctly, the Air Force is deeming me "unfit" because I cannot carry more than 25 lbs with my left hand. (Interesting considering my day-to-day job is sitting at a desk.)

Akbanone,

The Air Force does have something similar to COAD/COAR, they call it LAS (Limited Assignment Status). The difficulty is the fact that it is something that must be applied for (therefore the Air Force can turn you down because it isn't in the best interest of the Air Force).
 
USAFGamecocks said:
Crome,

I have a copy of my full medical records, I have read where many people have recommended that on here.

Ranger,

If I am reading my paperwork correctly, the Air Force is deeming me "unfit" because I cannot carry more than 25 lbs with my left hand. (Interesting considering my day-to-day job is sitting at a desk.)

Akbanone,

The Air Force does have something similar to COAD/COAR, they call it LAS (Limited Assignment Status). The difficulty is the fact that it is something that must be applied for (therefore the Air Force can turn you down because it isn't in the best interest of the Air Force).
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They can turn you down in the Army as well. The key to getting approval is glowing recommendations from your COC. Go as high as you can and get all the letters of recommendations in between. With support, your chances will be good.
 
You are going to have to be proactive in engaging you chain of command if you want to obtain LAS to make 20 AFS and I would not be waste any time. Just as Joe said above, now is the time to start pulling in markers and getting a packet together. Hope this works out for ya...
 
How long does an approval or denial answer take to come back? I applied 2 weeks ago and I'm thinking that there can't be very many requests...

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IF you are a reservist, check out 10 USC 12686 which outlines procedures for the processing of Guard/Reserve members that attain 18 years AFS while on AD/ADT orders (incidentally does NOT specify where you are serving on AD/ADT orders). I can't speak intelligently about how AD handles the issue; I've always believed that once a soldier/sailor/airman/marine attained 18 years of combined AD service you were locked in for a length of service (LOS) retirement to 20 years. I find it hard to understand why the system would want to cheat you out of less than a year to attain twenty years and the associated benefits, but with the goofiness going on in a certain east coast community who knows anymore.....
 
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