Help with Reenlistment

Perry

PEB Forum Regular Member
I apologize for the very long read but I am trying to make my story clear and honest, I am trying to reenlist into the military and am looking for any insight or help/guidance in getting a waiver.


I joined the Marine Corps when I was 17 years old. I was only in from March 2005 to November 2005 and was discharged for an Adjustment Disorder with Anxiety. The discharge was Honorable with an RE-3P JFV1 code. I was never fully comfortable with this discharge and for the reasons that led up to it. During boot camp I came down with pneumonia and struggled for the entirety of training. I was never dropped into a Rehab platoon and was only treated with standard medication. I completed all of the field training including the Crucible in this condition though I needed to receive an additional pulmonary aid to make it through much of the field phase.

Whether it was due to misfortune or simply fate, a number of incidents occurred during the short time frame before boot camp and after boot camp. Before shipping out my grandfather died and my father lost his job, my grandparents had been living with us for some time. I shipped out shortly thereafter and within my first month my family relocated from California to South Carolina after my dad was offered a new job. I never felt fully recovered after the pneumonia cleared and shortly after Graduation I was still having issues with physical activities. This was apparent in my poor PT scores and the difficulty handling the rucks and simple things such as climbing up stairs.

Upon arriving to SOI I made the Corpsman aware of the situation asking to receive some more treatment, and explaining that I was unsure If I would be able to handle the physical activities since I was still having issues breathing. Regardless I was still placed into training immediately. I had a lot of difficulty handling the physical activities and my fitness decreased dramatically and with the inability to perform to the standards of the other students I was constantly harassed by the students and NCO’s. I believe this was the start of my problems with adjusting to the demands of military life.

Regardless, I was never able to finish SOI due to being unable to complete the required activities. I was able to get further evaluated for conditions such as Asthma or some possible post-pneumonia episode of which one doctor instead suggested that I could be suffering repeated panic attacks. Despite my efforts it was determined that I likely had panic/anxiety attacks. I spent several months in the medical rehabilitation platoon going back and forth getting treated for breathing issues and/or panic attacks. Meanwhile my fitness and health continued to deteriorate and the doctor suggested I be discharged for an adjustment disorder with anxiety. It was documented that I likely had a medical condition that resulted from a medical condition that was not clearly defined that was aggravated by an adjustment disorder.

I was never happy with my discharge and struggled to adapt to civilian life afterwards for a long period of time. I had to adjust to South Carolina after spending my entire life in California and things were difficult. Regardless, I spent the time rebuilding my life from scratch. I went to school, found work, and saw a physician who later treated and cleared me of any pulmonary issues. Later I sought therapy and got back on track with my life. In fact, I am highly physically active participating in demanding sports and since becoming a certified coach and volunteering time with a number of fitness facilities. I am in the best shape of my life, confident, capable and determined.

Because all I have ever wanted to do is to serve I’ve decided to reenlist into the military. It has always been on my mind since that day I was discharged. I have spent number times with different recruiters; many have been supportive while others not so much. In June I decided to join the Army and the recruiters have been very supportive. To make my case strong, I gathered letters and evaluations from 2 psychologists as well as my physician. Together they state that I do not suffer from any pulmonary condition nor do I suffer from an adjustment disorder or anxiety and that I have since overcome my past issues.

The interesting thing about adjustment disorders which I have researched and been told by my doctors is that the condition is not permanent, rather it is a temporary condition which is the result of one or a number of traumatic events which can be overcome.

With the information I gathered, my recruiter submitted to USAREC which was turned down for not having enough supporting evidence. I countered this with a full evaluation by my psychologist. We resubmitted this which again was turned down by USAREC . This time they asked for more signatures by the doctor which I gathered. The third time we submitted it was returned and I was told that I am Permanently disqualified from service. No reason was given.

My recruiters have said they do not know why and do not understand why USAREC has been this difficult. My condition can be waived according to them and to my research. The thing that bothers me is that I have not been allowed to request a consult by meps doctors. The process if I’m correct is that those who require a medical or personality waiver must be given a consult by a meps doctor, and if there is supporting documentation to prove the condition no longer exists and that the person is capable of handling the demands of the military then they can apply for a waiver. This has not been the case for me as I have not been able to get approval to process in the first place.

I have been searching other methods of getting in and my recruiters suggested a congressional inquiry. I did speak with a congressional aide who did say that there MUST be a reason given for the PDQ and that I need to be given a consult by meps before a decision is made. Whether this is accurate I do not know. Regardless, I have been working furiously and hard to get all the information I can and to exhaust what areas I am able to before moving into a congressional inquiry. It just seems strange that I have not been able to get a consult from meps and I was not given a reason for the PDQ.

Again I apologize for the long read and that this is likely in the wrong section due to JFV1 being classified as a medical discharge and not administrative or personality but I was unsure where to properly submit this. I simply am looking for guidance on other avenues I can pursue to reenlist. My recruiter said that if I really want this, I can get it if im persistent. Hopefully there is truth in that, I just feel that perhaps everything that has occurred is due to misfortune and that some of it is an injustice. Thank you for the time taken to read this.
 
Perry,

Welcome! I have come across a few cases where Veterans in your situation have been able to re-enlist after going to the BCMR and getting their RE Code changed. There may be other ways to accomplish what you are trying to do, but given your denials from USAREC, it seems likely to me that BCMR is the way to go. Do you know if you otherwise meet enlistment standards? That is, is it the code that is hanging you up, or are there any other issues?
 
Thanks for a quick response Jason,

My recruiter says it has to be the code that is the hang up, other than that I meet all other requirements. I have thought about pursuing BCMR, I only read about that today though.
 
If anyone is able to answer this,

I was reading about the BCMR and I will go through with appealing the separation code. The regulations state that writing to the BCMR should be used only after all other avenues have been attempted. I likely will go forward with writing my nearest Congressman and possibly the Senator about this.

BCMR states that only justifiable evidence will warrant a decision on the change of the code. In my medical records I can sight 3 disregarded areas about my treatment that seemed to be improperly followed: 1. When I came down with a serious case of pneumonia during boot camp and was recommended for drop and further treatment which never occurred. This is recorded in my paperwork which never appeared in my discharge files, but instead of being dropped I was pushed forward in training 2. At the beginning of SOI I still had difficulty breathing and made the Corpsman aware of this before being put into a training company in ITB, I was never allowed to see a doctor for treatment and was placed in training immediately, I also have a record of this. 3. After not being able to accomplish any of the physical requirements I fell depressed not being able to finish the training and developed the adjustment disorder. My discharge papers say that the medication I was prescribed for anxiety had no affect. I was never prescribed anxiety medication at all during training and there is no record of a prescription medication for anxiety within my records.

I am not sure how much affect this would have on things but there are records of it. And my civilian physician did discover evidence of a post-pnemonia episode that my body was still recovering from after being discharged which has since cleared after having time to recoup.

With the information I have written here, would these hold any bearing on the board if combined it with numerous evaluations from my physician and psychiatrists clearing me of any pulmonary and adjustment disorder with anxiety with their own recommendation that I am fit for service?
 
If anyone is able to answer this,

I was reading about the BCMR and I will go through with appealing the separation code. The regulations state that writing to the BCMR should be used only after all other avenues have been attempted. I likely will go forward with writing my nearest Congressman and possibly the Senator about this.

The requirement to use other avenues first refers to those cases where there are other administrative appeals available. In your case, there are not any and writing your Congressman/Senator is not a requirement before going to the BCMR. I think doing so would only take more time and not result in any favorable action.

BCMR states that only justifiable evidence will warrant a decision on the change of the code. In my medical records I can sight 3 disregarded areas about my treatment that seemed to be improperly followed: 1. When I came down with a serious case of pneumonia during boot camp and was recommended for drop and further treatment which never occurred. This is recorded in my paperwork which never appeared in my discharge files, but instead of being dropped I was pushed forward in training 2. At the beginning of SOI I still had difficulty breathing and made the Corpsman aware of this before being put into a training company in ITB, I was never allowed to see a doctor for treatment and was placed in training immediately, I also have a record of this. 3. After not being able to accomplish any of the physical requirements I fell depressed not being able to finish the training and developed the adjustment disorder. My discharge papers say that the medication I was prescribed for anxiety had no affect. I was never prescribed anxiety medication at all during training and there is no record of a prescription medication for anxiety within my records.

I am not sure how much affect this would have on things but there are records of it. And my civilian physician did discover evidence of a post-pnemonia episode that my body was still recovering from after being discharged which has since cleared after having time to recoup.

Most of this is not helpful. What you are asking them to correct is your RE Code because you are now better. The only thing that sounds relevant is that you needed time to recover, and now you have. But you are not fighting (I think) your condition when you were separated. You are saying you are no longer disabled.

With the information I have written here, would these hold any bearing on the board if combined it with numerous evaluations from my physician and psychiatrists clearing me of any pulmonary and adjustment disorder with anxiety with their own recommendation that I am fit for service?

The more important facts you want to present have to do with your current condition. Information showing your current fitness is what you want to submit. Participation in athletic events, working in physically demanding jobs, regular difficult workouts, etc., comes to mind.
 
So by providing all the statements by my doctor and psychiatrists along with a written statement about how I am better and no longer fighting the condition, just needed time to recover plus facts about my current fitness level with examples. Would it be helpful to have proof of a passing PFT signed off by say the station commander or some other authority? As well as a letter explaining everything that happened followed up what I have done afterwards to improve myself, my health, and fitness and that there would be no issue at handling the demands of military life?
 
As for the PFT, if you mean currently, yes. The idea is that you are no longer disabled, so your current condition is what is most important.
 
Jason, again thank you for your help and quick replies sir. I plan on drafting a letter and getting everything together this week.
 
I have one more questions, I did talk yesterday to a Marine PSR about the BCMR and said if I do get the code changed I would actually stand a pretty good chance of being able to reenlist back into the Marines. Now I'm not letting my hopes up and I am going to go about this very smartly and professionally.

I'm going to build a strong package to send up to BCMR. How well do you think a few references from CO's of the USMC recruiting command in my area, and the CO's of the nearby reserve unit would look in the packet?

I feel it couldn't hurt to try and get interviews from them and add that with the other references I have. At the least, it could strengthen consideration for an re-code change.
 
Update,

I wanted to update this with my latest "progress" also If I could get this thread moved into another area such as administrative separations since it is clearly not personality disorder. I've found a lot of information on my discharge type, I guess what Is hanging me up right now is the paragraphs in my medical record have lots of anxiety, depression issues listed in them. At least that what my recruiter is telling me. I have not gone through BCMR yet, I've gotten numerous civilian evaluations and tests done to show I no longer suffer any conditions and have been treated for the adjustment disorder and no anxiety or depression issues currently exist and that they were simply the result of an isolated incident. I'm getting character references on top of everything to help but it still seems to be not enough.

I was finally told to go through the VA and get evaluated there but the VA says because I wasn't in for 2 years that I'm not eligible for benefits, I've filled out the 10-10ez form and sent it in anyways and I'm trying to get in contact with someone to see if I can setup some type of fit for duty evaluation. I'm told by my recruiters if I can get this done, I should be able to process. I'm not sure if this is really the case though. It's all getting very frustrating.

If none of this works out then I will try the BCMR route but I'm wondering if that will even work either. If anyone has any advice I'm open to any ideas.

Thanks
 
Sounds to me like you gotta fix your RE codes no matter all the other stuff. Sounds like the codes will still hang you up in the end. I'd do the BCMR route for sure.

Jason is an attny., so I'd take his advice, too. He's been down many a road with Servicemember issues - yours is no exception.

You sound like you're ready and I sure hope you prevail in your quest.

Please keep us posted!
 
Thanks, I'm still working on it. Going the BCMR route I want to have as strong a case as possible, I almost have my associates (2 more semesters left), work a stable job, compete in a recreational sport, and I'm going through the application process with a local Police Department (hopefully it works out). Like I mentioned before, I have multiple evaluations from the depression and adjustment issues that resulted form being in the rehabilitation platoon for so long and being around such a negative environment, but I also have treatment records form my own private physician for post-pneumonia issues which seems to have been the result of a temporary asthma condition. In fact, I had a physical with the VA last week and the doctor went over my records and agreed with my private physicians.

She even set me up with a consult with the VA's own psychiatrists but then the VA called me back and said they do not offer consults. I was referred to a psychiatrists with the DAV after a few more phone calls and she is trying to set up a consult for me through the VA as she said my situation is strange. I'll admit, mine is definitely a strange one.

It is very frustrating though, I hate the fact that I was discharged early and feel ashamed about the outcome and I feel ashamed discussing with people that I was in the military even for a short time. But I can't help but feel as though im wasting my time going through all this to reenlist and the end result may be for nothing. Regardless, I have the forms for the BCMR, just need to get started.
 
So I got some good news.

I managed to get into the VA system and I qualify for benefits. I just kept calling people for help and found someone who gave an honest look at my paperwork got me into the system and this week I saw a psychologist for an evaluation which went well.

I will say however, it was nice to finally hear someone explain things in a way that made sense. I had so many things going on out of my control prior to boot and on top of that everything that happened in between especially with the pneumonia and the mild asthma issue which developed afterwards all of which I have documentation for. She sees my adjustment disorder as a combination of everything that happend and further complicated by a medical condition and simply put that it is no longer an issue and that I have completely overcome the issue which I have especially after consistent persistence.

Anyways, now that I feel more confident about the whole thing I will go ahead and write the BCMR with everything I have and do as Jason recommended.... thanks for your help guys. I'm also gonna give the paperwork to my recruiter and let him forward it up in case the VA doctors word holds more than a civilians, as I've read some success stories in similar ways.
 
Were you able to reenlist? I have basically the same problem. Pneumonia and all...
 
Hi Perry. If you every find yourself back on this website please let us know how everything turned out. I'm in the process of reenlisting under an RE Code 3 and Separation Code JFV. Adjustment Disorder with Depressed Mood. Honorable Discharge. Been working on it for 8 months and I'm at the point of my packet being sent back and forth to MEPS for a physical. I'm confident but I am also looking at the experience of others.
 
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