How can a doc declare that you have persistent hallucinations and delusions?

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brohammer

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When you never reported that you do? I’m just going over my symptoms listed again and I can’t fathom how on earth that is found. I had one “episode” back in June where I experienced some paranoia and delusional thinking. I did not have any hallucinations. It is noted that my symptoms went into remission, soo as I take it because I’m on meds they just assume I would be having them? That is very far-fetched. I am really bothered how agenda serving military docs are. It actually wouldn’t bother me soo much if this diagnoses didn’t impact my ability to get a new job soo much and ruin everything that I have worked for in my life to include getting multiple college degrees. I KNOW for a fact I won’t get anywhere trying to fight this, except maybe lowering my ratings a bit.

I imagine my rating will drop to around 10% or less once I get a job and have my first re-eval. It just sucks because I’ve invested soo much of my life into my career(which I planned to do in the civilian world).
 
Where are you reading your symptoms? If it's in your NARSUM, or still early in the process, make sure you don't sign if you don't agree with it. If there is something you haven't reported and isn't happening being listed anywhere make sure you alert your PEBLO so it can be fixed or you can at least know your options.
 
It’s from the C n P exam for rating purposes and on my letter from the VA after the IPEB results. I didn’t rebutt the MEB because I didn’t think it would do anything as far as getting me back in. Just reading through all the others experiences show that rebuttal didn’t do anything. Now I have a 70% rating. Only thing I can do is rebutt the finding, but the PEBLO told me I could only rebutt the percentages, not anything else. I’m guessing it is too late? Maybe I should have rebutted the MEB, before letting it go to IPEB. I have felt very powerless in this whole process.
 
Had you addressed before everything was finalized I do think you would have been ok. But keep in mind what you're receiving ratings for is no one's business. As long as you aren't an active danger to anyone, there shouldn't be any issue as far as it effecting your career. But do take the opportunity to get it addressed via the VA now that that process is complete. Even if it changes your ratings; if you feel it would adversely effect your life you still can get it changed.
 
You think I would have been able to stay in ?

It will effect my career...because I’m getting kicked out because of it and I’m losing my clearance and can’t do what I did in the military in the civilian world. I have extremely low chance of getting on as a detective or police officer which is another field I’ve dedicated myself towards. They look at your military medical records, there is no way if they think I’m always delusional.

During my VA exam, I told the doc that I had no symptoms, I don’t know if it was meant for just the one time event or if he really thought I was delusional. It is written in the VA write up that no symptoms were observed....but for rating purposes he wrote persistent delusions/hallucinations. He also wrote I was delusional about my medication (I stopped taking from bad side effects, which I told him.) I didn’t question it at the time and now seeing how high my ratings are it really hit me to how the medical community sees me. I still feel with 100 % certainty it was an agenda to make sure I never get back in, not what the docs really thought or observed. My PCM doesn’t think I have it, but the head docs must keep writing things in personal notes to change perceptions. In the whole process I felt no matter what I said, no matter how many times I denied hallucinations/delusions, the docs always came back with “your crazy.”

Everything I have read, says you need medical evidence to have any chance whatsoever of making headway for rebuttal. Now that I have this label, everything I say or do is just written off to be based on my “illness.”
 
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brohammer said:
You think I would have been able to stay in ?

It will effect my career...because I’m getting kicked out because of it and I’m losing my clearance and can’t do what I did in the military in the civilian world. I have ext low chance of getting on as a detective or police officer which is another field I’ve dedicated myself towards. They look at you military medical records, there is no way if they think I’m always delusional.

During my VA exam, I told the doc that I had no symptoms, I don’t know if it was meant for just the one time event, and is was written in the VA write up that no symptoms were observed....but for rating purposes he wrote persistent delusions/hallucinations. He also wrote I was delusional about me medication (I stopped taking from bad side effects, which I told him.) I didn’t question it at the time and now seeing how high my ratings are it really hit me to how the medical community sees me. I still feel with 100 % certainty it was an agenda to make sure I never get back in, not what the docs really thought or observed. My PCM doesn’t think I have it, but the head docs must keep writing things in personal notes to change perceptions. I’m the whole process I felt no matter what I said, no matter how many times I denied hallucinations/delusions, the docs always came back with “your crazy.”
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I'm not sure what it is that you do, but you really shouldn't be losing your clearance over it. I have a TS/SCI, and have never seen anyone lose a clearance over psych issues unless their issue was that the job associated with their clearance was causing the issue in the first place. Check with a JAG official and keep in contact with your MSC about what your rights are, you should be able to get this removed, or at the least have a letter written to state that the isues yu have wouldn't effect your overall health/abilities.

As far as being about to stay in, you're absolutely right that it's unlikely you would have been able to, given that your condition was bad enough to warrant a MEB in the first place; but I wouldn't assume that it's the end of the road for you. Nor would I assume that there is some form of conspiracy to keep you from staying in. The VA doctor certainly wouldn't receive any benefit from that so it wouldn't make sense that anything in the report had an intent aside from what he believed to be true. But there are multiple systems in place to have these things removed if they are incorrect, plus you're not 100% complete and total, so the VA itself doesn't think your issue (or at least the issue they've assessed) to be completely debilitating.
 
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I'm not sure what it is that you do, but you really shouldn't be losing your clearance over it. I have a TS/SCI, and have never seen anyone lose a clearance over psych issues unless their issue was that the job associated with their clearance was causing the issue in the first place. Check with a JAG official and keep in contact with your MSC about what your rights are, you should be able to get this removed, or at the least have a letter written to state that the isues yu have wouldn't effect your overall health/abilities.

As far as being about to stay in, you're absolutely right that it's unlikely you would have been able to, given that your condition was bad enough to warrant a MEB in the first place; but I wouldn't assume that it's the end of the road for you. Nor would I assume that there is some form of conspiracy to keep you from staying in. The VA doctor certainly wouldn't receive any benefit from that so it wouldn't make sense that anything in the report had an intent aside from what he believed to be true. But there are multiple systems in place to have these things removed if they are incorrect, plus you're not 100% complete and total, so the VA itself doesn't think your issue (or at least the issue they've assessed) to be completely debilitating.
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Thanks for the advice and it looks to be from here the best I can do is try to keep my clearance, what warranted the issue in the first place was an off base event, not having to do with my job, but the write ups make it sound like I’m dangerous to be around classified information, and I have been in suspense and unable to do my job since I’ve returned and been in the MEB process(I’m intel).

The reason I think there was a conspiracy to halt my career and rid me of my clearance is because the whole time I was in the hospital I was accused of things like treason and they asked me ridiculous questions like if I had money waiting for me somewhere. I reckon because they found my passport and I had recently went on a trip to Europe and was working with foreigners raised red flags, despite me denying everything 1,000 times. I was also accused of doing drugs over and over and staff members were encouraging me to violate the UCMJ, telling me how to exit grounds. It was a nightmare. This was hospital staff, mind you. To add to that when I told them I wanted to continue my career in intel, they elevated my diagnosis and wanted to increase my medications. I am in firm belief someone thought I had done something illegal and they were hell bent determined to get me kicked out and lose my clearance. It still feels like this is going on and I can’t do anything to stop it. I know if I brought up what the hospital staff said and asked me, they would deny it and blame everything on my “illness” like they have done so far with everything else.
 
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