Importance PEB Rating versus VA Rating

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Hello everyone.....this is my first post here, but I've been reading a ton.

My question is what is the importance of the PEB rating? So far as I have heard, their only options are fit, unfit with no severance, unfit with severance, or unfit with medical retirement.

When it comes to getting a disability check, that amount all depends on your VA rating.

So let me ask, how is a 20% rating different than a 10% on your PEB? The VA isn't even going to look at it. Does it affect the severance calculation? Even if it did, wouldn't you have gotten that money in the long run from VA?

One alibi question: what am I giving up (if anything) by accepting the severance?

I'll be sure to post my experiences once I have them (MEB physical is in a week).

Edward
 
Edward,

Welcome!

The two systems (DoD and VA) compensate for different things. DoD compensates for a career cut short, while VA compensates for service connected injuries that impact your ability to earn money in the civilian workforce.

When it comes to getting a disability check, that amount all depends on your VA rating.
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Not exactly. The DoD system rates on percentages that result in one of two payment calculations. For 0%, 10%, or 20%, resulting in severance pay, the amount is two times years in service times base pay (with a minimum of three years and maximum of 19 years. So, effectively there is no difference in compensation between 0% through 20%.

If you hit 30%, the benefts are substantial. First, you get all retiree benefits, including health care for yourself and eligible dependents. Your retired pay is determined by the percentage times your retired base pay. While in many cases, you will have an offset of your VA pay, in certain cases, you may not have an offset or the offset of your VA pay may be partial (included are those who have more than 20 years of service when referred to PEB and are eligible for Concurrent Retirement and Disability Pay, or those eligible for Combat Related Special Compensation).

The other thing to remember is that while conventional wisdom says that VA will rate you higher, this may take several years to resolve. The DoD compensation is basically seemless, so it is to your advantage to have as high a rating as possible (especially over 30%).

Best of luck with the process and let us know any questions.
 
I received a 40% with PDR - worth about $30K /year(~$2500/month).

I am expecting a VA rating of at least 60% - which, according to the charts I looked at is $1264/month (married with 4 kids under 18)

SO, what is my ballpark monthly compensation? how much is taxed?

Thanks in advance

-hoops
 
Greetings to my brothers,

I recently underwent the DES Pilot Program at WRAMC and two (2) weeks ago my files was sent to PEB. I am rated at 100% S/C as a result of previous C and P examinations and decisions but still had to undergo 13 C&P at Washington DC VA. A couple of questions:

1. If I was already rated for something but didn't claim it as an Army claim do I still keep the award on the VA side.

2. Most of my conditions are Combat related, will these be automatically awarded on the DD Form 199?

3. If something is listed as "medically acceptable" does it still get a VA rating?

4. Can my current 100% rating from VA be affected by this DOD/VA exams...(this makes 35 C&P total)

5. Since I am 100% can I expect that the PEB will rule pretty much in line with the VA?

6. When I called the VA hotline I was informed my current C & P were "being developed". What does this mean?

Thanks for all your help!!!

KUDOS to Jason, you are amazing and provide alot of assistance to the masses like myself who don't understand this stuff due to TBI/PTSD etc.

Thank you,

Supplydog
 
1. If I was already rated for something but didn't claim it as an Army claim do I still keep the award on the VA side.
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Yes, but you should have claimed it with the Army. If retired by the Army and you have less than 20 years of service, your compensation is offset. Basically, you will receive the higher of the two (DoD Retirement or VA Disability Compensation).

2. Most of my conditions are Combat related, will these be automatically awarded on the DD Form 199?
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If you're talking about CRSC, then no, it is not automatically awarded. You need to wait for retirement orders to apply for CRSC, then include only evidence that supports your combat-related claim (VA rating decisions, DA 199, pertinent medical records).

3. If something is listed as "medically acceptable" does it still get a VA rating?
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Something that is medically acceptable in the Army means that it meets retention standards per AR 40-501 chapter 3. In other words, this condition does not limit your ability to do your military job.

The VA rates you based on your capacity to function in the civilian workforce. They will rate anything that is service-connected and is a current disability. So depending on the foregoing factors, the VA may rate the condition.

4. Can my current 100% rating from VA be affected by this DOD/VA exams...(this makes 35 C&P total)
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I am unsure, if they are C&P exams I presume they could possibly lead to a different rating decision. Would need to know more in this area for a determinative answer.

5. Since I am 100% can I expect that the PEB will rule pretty much in line with the VA?
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No, the PEB will only rate you for conditions that make you unfit for service. The VA will rate you for any condition that is service-connected and affects your ability to work as a civilian.

6. When I called the VA hotline I was informed my current C & P were "being developed". What does this mean?
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Your claim is being worked on, in plain language. The VA has a duty to assist in formulating your claim.

I do admit I am confused though, are you in the DoD/VA Pilot?
 
Moderator, Thank you for your informative answers. I have one additional question -What does "Condition is unfitting and not yet stable" have as far as the PEB rating. All other conditions say Condition is unfitting and stable.
 
In regards to your condition is unfitting ,not yet stable comment....Any condition is unstable, that is grounds to place you on the TDRL or Temporary Retirement until the condition is stable enough to receive a rating.
 
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