OK I need some MAJOR HELP on this one and WHO to go on this one what do you do when you know of a SOLDIER who is trying so hard to work the system and do everything in his power to FAKE a ILLNESS and FAKE things to get out of the MILITARY and it hurts others in the UNIT and when you tell the COMMANDER it goes in one ear and out the other and the BASE COMMANDER and IG do not know how to do ANYTHING not even know how to do article 15's and to top it off just because someone is in the the mental hospital when they make threatened to shoot someone in the unit is no joke to me that is sick and horrible and especially when you keep on bragging about it seriously grow up and then when you ask questions about how to fake a illness like PTSD that is not something to ask about especially when a SOLDIER has gotten hit by a IED and has lost a LIMB you do not do that stuff and people our not seeing into this stuff for whatever reason I do not know Im angry in so many ways and so upset I have reported it many times and do not know what else to do it is not helping there giving him a MEB for depression and he was liking Im going to get 100 percent for my depression he was offer to get not on a MEB and instead to take 11,000 dollars and get out he declined and decided to do the MEB he said he will get paid more money because they said it can take up to 12 to 18 months for the MEB board UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH what a piece of junk seriously I wish they would get him out in a day mean while the whole unit started telling him he was dumb and he needs to just get out and take the 11,000 since he did 5 years NG and 3 years Active duty mind you he had no medical problems meaning he is at sick call everyday and the hospital on active duty the last 3 years he also failed WLC and does everything in his power to go the mental hospital because he was told if he goes at least 10 times they will give 100 percent when he gets out Im to the point that I want the commander to be aware of this again and make him know that this SOLDIER is doing everything to get out of the field get of doing anything and there not seeing thru this I know its not my job to be telling him everything thing but I feel he is blind and it makes me angry and sick to my stomach in many ways just like he was not suppose to be driving on post and got 2 tickets on base commander does not know but Im wanting to do so bad and want him to be aware of it in someway to me this is not right its sick and SOLDIERS WHO OUR INJURY our not getting what they should be getting and we get this person who is using the system by going on line and trying to work the system on how to fake a condition seriously who does that that is not right at all that is sick and someone who needs to suffer and pay the price so what do I do any ideas
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I am a nurse practitioner and refer trainees to medical boards all the time- That being said we DO THOROUGHLY, at least I do, examine them on every aspect. We compare their symptoms to their signs which I see while doing the physical exam. By our license, even if someone thinks you are faking, they HAVE to refer you or treat you in a plan of care based on your symptoms- whether that be physical therapy that later doesn't work and then you go down the path of medications- thus ending in an MEB depending on your prognosis obviously- some doctors I work with are afraid to order x-rays and MRIs immediately because of the budget costs and they want to make sure you have gone through less invasive treatments first, unless it is an acute injury- breaking an ankle etc. Having been doing this the last few years it is a slippery slope, but we HAVE to treat and refer appropriately. Honestly this person might be acting like he is faking to you, but have severe issues and open up differently to the providers. I had a basic trainee that had attempted suicide and had a plan- completely depressed- lots of family issues- long story short I sent him to mental health and had him seen by psyche for a full behavioral evaluation. His MTI kept saying he was "faking it" to get out of the system and spoke differently to him than when he broke down in my office. You NEVER really know what is going on in someone's head and what their home life is like. People adapt or do not adapt to stress differently. Suicide is not a joking matter no matter what- if anyone makes any homicidal threats it will be taken straight up the command, even if faking, but I have yet to really see someone that is truly faking their illness- typically they usually have SOMETHING going on or they would not be there in the first place. As most of us know, this whole MEB process is LONG and STRESSFUL, it stirs up every type of emotion- financial, personal, family, and self-worth. I know of several military members that have committed suicide based on simply being depressed from the MEB, not being able to take leave, losing their daily functional status, and so forth.
I agree that you need to let the providers and commanders handle it- they probably have more information that cannot be given to you- I know we cannot tell anything to anyone unless the commander needs to know based on job/duties/profiles/safety issues. This is why they claim that "pain is subjective to the patient," versus objective- a good doc will treat the pain even if he cannot "see" the problem- or at least get you to the right specialty.
I agree that you need to let the providers and commanders handle it- they probably have more information that cannot be given to you- I know we cannot tell anything to anyone unless the commander needs to know based on job/duties/profiles/safety issues. This is why they claim that "pain is subjective to the patient," versus objective- a good doc will treat the pain even if he cannot "see" the problem- or at least get you to the right specialty.
Might want to check your grammar too! You're not so good yourself!!
I think there are a lot more broke people than any of use believe. In the Army you learn early on that showing any weakness will bring a pack of wolfs upon you. With that, most tough it out and stay as far away from sick call as possible. As stated earlier by the 1SG, that is the worst thing you can do for yourself.
I look at it this way. A professional athlete has a team of medical professionals that follow them around. They get the best of care and any potential problem is dealt with long before it becomes a big issue. Ask yourself for a minute if a Soldier, Sailor, Marine, or Airman does not perform to the level of a pro athlete. Not only are they required to do everyday, they are expected to go 24/7 like this. An infantry soldier would be a great example. Find me any pro that could hang for a month doing constant patrols with a hundred pound pack. It just wouldn't happen. They would break down just like we do.
Why is it acceptable for an athlete to be paid millions of dollars and then cry when they are a little still. while service members are subjected to much worse and are told to "suck it up and drive on"?
I guess I will finish my rant with saying don't judge your fellow service members for going to sick call, or having a day off because they are sick. Deep down you really don't know what their mindset is, or the pain they suffer.
Joe
I look at it this way. A professional athlete has a team of medical professionals that follow them around. They get the best of care and any potential problem is dealt with long before it becomes a big issue. Ask yourself for a minute if a Soldier, Sailor, Marine, or Airman does not perform to the level of a pro athlete. Not only are they required to do everyday, they are expected to go 24/7 like this. An infantry soldier would be a great example. Find me any pro that could hang for a month doing constant patrols with a hundred pound pack. It just wouldn't happen. They would break down just like we do.
Why is it acceptable for an athlete to be paid millions of dollars and then cry when they are a little still. while service members are subjected to much worse and are told to "suck it up and drive on"?
I guess I will finish my rant with saying don't judge your fellow service members for going to sick call, or having a day off because they are sick. Deep down you really don't know what their mindset is, or the pain they suffer.
Joe
I agree with ajw here. I work for the WG Commander and can attest to the fact that leadership is often read in on close hold information (e.g. medical info/HIPA). Not only is it illegal for them to discuss another members medical issues with people that don't have a need to know, it demonstrates improper leadership. As convoluted as the system seems/is, it is a system of professional medical personnel and leaders...and an appeal process in the event of wrongdoing. Why in the world does the op think they have ANY business inquiring about another members private issues? If people would spend more time concentrating on their own lives/careers rather than trying to merge in on others, they might be more successful/happy.