Physical Disability Board of Review Update

I am aware of the class action lawsuit. Thanks for bringing it up, though. For those interested, I posted about it here: http://www.pebforum.com/va-news-fee...oper-benefits-ptsd-veterans-12-18-2008-a.html

I am very curious to see how this all pans out. I think there are some issues with the jurisdictional limit of $10,000. That is, the plaintiffs must show they are harmed in a sum of at least that amount for the Court of Federal Claims to have jurisdiction. The case seems to be focused on the issue of applying 38 CFR Section 4.129, which is the regulation that requires a temporary rating of 50% for those separated due to a highly stressful event, with a review of the rating not earlier than 6 months. A concern I have with the complaint is that it does not address the impact of the re-evaluation after 6 months, which is something I think the Court will need to address if they do rule for the plaintiffs, in whole or in part.

The jurisdictional money issue comes in, in my opinion, because some members, even if rated for 6 months at 50%, may not reach the $10,000 threshold. The second, related issue, though, is that some members will, on re-evaluation, be rated at less than 50% (or even at less than 30%, thus not qualifying for retirement any longer). The next issue is that the military has been applying this criteria for some time now (this is an issue that I worked to resolve on behalf of one of my clients, which I was able to discuss with Army Times with my clients' permission as part of our effort to overturn this policy: http://www.pebforum.com/ptsd/7789-army-times-article-rating-ptsd.html . Note that shortly after the article, the Army changed its position on this issue and awarded the correct 50% rating).

Why this is a bit of a concern is that this is a moot issue for those after the change in policy and also raises the issue of do the named plaintiff's of the members of the class have to pursue their administrative remedies before the ABCMR (I am not of the opinion that this is always required, but the military routinely states that the member does...this issue must be considered carefully in every case, though, I do not think it is clear that it is required...on this point, it is very important to consider the issue of pursuing administrative remedies, and if you do sue, to be prepared to address this issue). A bad outcome for the plaintiffs would be for the case to be dismissed as moot, with the BCMR as the remedy for those who were previously erroneously rated. I do not have an opinion on the likelihood of that, but it is something to be aware of as a possible (bad) outcome.

What I would like to see is the Court address head on whether the military was free to use substituted rating scheme different than the VASRD prior to the passage of the 2008 NDAA (I think they could not and ALWAYS have had to apply the VASRD). There are a number of ways that the Court could avoid deciding this issue if it finds against the plaintiffs for other reasons. But, as discussed below, I am glad this suit was filed.

A huge problem with this area of the law is that not enough members and Veterans pursue their rights. There are a lot of unsettled questions in this area of the law because unless people file suit, the courts do not have an issue to decide on and thus do not state rules that the military must follow. Because most Veterans do not pursue either administrative boards or file suit, the government gets to do many things that I think are not proper. It is very important, in my opinion, that the correct issues are raised at the administrative board level, BCMR/PDBR (because the courts often will not address in a lawsuit issues that were not raised at the administrative level) and that there is follow through in court. A related issue is the fact that suits must be filed within 6 years of the legal harm in order for the Court of Claims to have jurisdiction (power to hear the case; this is not always the date of separation though, keep that in mind when reading my comments, below). So, because many people wait too long, their valid issues are not addressed (that is another issue with the suit, it only helps those separated within 6 years of the lawsuit...those who fall in that window of before Dec. 2002 and after 9/11/2001, still may not get any help from this suit).

I have not viewed the Government's reply or any motions in this case, so some of these issues may have been raised or explored already. And, as always, remember, that none of the above is legal advice, just my take on some of the issues in the suit. All in all, it is a good thing to see a suit that may result in a determination regarding the proper application of the VASRD.

This area of the law is very important to me and I intend on fighting out as many issues as possible to secure the rights of all Servicemembers. I do think it is important to keep up with the law and developments in this area, which is one of the goals of this site. In the next few months, I anticipate making an announcement regarding some steps I am taking to address some of the problems.

Keep your heads up, sometimes it takes persistence, but those who demand their rights very often come up with a win. It does not always come soon, or easy, but being persistent is key. The corollary to this is that if you give up, you will lose. Just by reading this, you are taking a step in the right direction.
 
I sure hope the board works in our favor. It would be a great relief for me to finally have something positive happen. I was up for a job and I was denied it because I was medically discharged. I heard from someone in the know that they took it as if I were kicked out because I did something bad. I was hoping they would at least ask me about it but they just took it as if I was a bad apple. Please keep us notified on how that lawsuit is going, and I’ll notify everyone as soon as I get something back from the PDBR.


I worked human resources at Walmart before employment with the military. These were the guidelines I followed with veterans:

Can:

Ask if served in armed forces
Ask branch of service served in and Rank achieved
Ask about training and education and how to applies to position


Cannot:

Request military records
In on military service other then US
Type of discharge or nature behind discharge from US armed forces

I found a lot of people VOLUNTEERED too much information or just blurted things out when they did not need to or are in areas that are not suppose to be disclosed. Mainly a lot of individuals do not understand their rights and/or the human resources are sometimes some poorly trained individuals that will trample your rights without you realizing it.

Anyways the article "Veterans with service connected disabilities and ADA" makes for some good reading.

Veterans with Service-Connected Disabilities in the Workplace and the ADA

Discrimination due to disabilities

Americans with Disabilities Act


 
Thanks for the input surfboy; The Company is a Def Contractor which has mostly Ret Col's as managers. I talked to one of them about a different job and my medical discharge came out and didn't seem to be a problem but he needed some extra experience which was understood. I applied for another position which I was qualified and the other manager asked him why he didn't hire me. From what I was told by someone there, He didn't exactly remember and just said, "Because he didn't finish his commitment". The person I knew tried to fix it but the Ret Col considered it, “Case Closed”, and didn’t want to discuss it.
 
Jason,

Thanks for the excellent information on the lawsuit filed on behalf of those discharged with PTSD. I have also wondered just what would happen if the court ruled in our favor. Would the Army just turn around in six months and drop our ratings to 10% again? One of my regrets is that the Army didn't follow it's own regulations because maybe I could have returned to service in six months with more treatment. You are right though, we veterans must continue to fight for our rights and follow the words of Winston Churchill: "Never, never, NEVER give up!" Thanks for being a light in an area of law that has so much darkness and mystery surrounding it. You are making a difference Jason, never forget that!!

Kevin:)
 
I sent my DD 294 and required documents to the board of review 3 weeks ago. For those of you who have had replies from the board, do they reply by email or postal mail? And about how long did it take you to get a response
 
I sent my DD 294 and required documents to the board of review 3 weeks ago. For those of you who have had replies from the board, do they reply by email or postal mail? And about how long did it take you to get a response

You'll get a letter via regular US Mail. Ours came about 3-4 weeks after we sent the DD 294.
 
I did get a memo from the intake unit yesterday so at least they have everything now. Has anyone heard anything else aside from the initial intake letter? Im preparing myself for a long process, this may take quite a while. As long as its done fairly and consistently for everyone we should have good results, it kind a sucks to be the first ones though not knowing what to expect. I applied for the TSGLI for the brain injury I had but I was denied they said I didn't quite meet the criteria.
 
How long has it been now? I am surprised that not one person has any type of answer. I see that as really good because they are really taking the time needed or really bad because they have no idea about what is going on and they are lost. :confused:
 
Below is a posting I made on the DoD Heath Affairs website directed at Secretary Gates on the PDBR.

Mike

LTC Parker,

I may have missed it elsewhere in this forum, but did you ever receive an official response to this concern? I am a 30 year veteran who has become a victim of the now infamous "Question 21".

Thanks
 
This is my first post. Has anyone got back a rulling on the PDBR? My husband has applied for this, and he called them today to see if they had any rullings on his yet. They told him that the docket number is the number in line. My husband is lucky he is in the late 20's. They said it was in DC somewhere. I so hope that they figure this out soon. If anyone gets any news please let me know. My husband is 100% with the VA and got 0% with the army. I cannot belive the number of people in the same boat! I wish you all luck!
 
As far as I know there have been no decisions made for anyone who applied to the PDBR. I makes me wonder if they are not sure on how to make these decisions? I would think that the very first people who applied would have heard something by now? I wonder if maybe there is some legislation that might be holding things up? Anyone have any answers? I would love to hear from you.:confused:
 
LTC Parker,

That was a another great response from you. I am one of those who was discharged with a ridiculously low rating, not in line with the VASRD, and before January 28, 2008. I have not applied to the PDBR because of the ruling that they can go ahead and use the service specific 'bastardizations' of the law. I'm watching with keen interest the future outcomes of PDBR cases like mine and what happens in the court case against the DoD. It sure would be nice if the Department of Defense would start conducting themself with the same inegrity expected of individual servicemembers. Oh wait, is that asking too much?? ;)
 
There is some indication the Senate will include language in the FY10 NDAA that the PDBR must rate per the VASRD in effect at the time of separation. The SASC staffers are are certainly aware of the situation.

Mike
 
Thanks for the great information. Do you have any idea as to how long it might take for them to figure this all out and start ruling on the pending claims? Even though my husband is at 100% with the VA, he is not permanent and total so there is no health insurance from the VA for our children. I am unable to work full time, because I take care of him and our children. My children are going to loose their health insurance at the end of this month because of this situation. My daughter is autistic. I think I am really feeling overwhelmed. Any ideas on time frame?
 
Trish,

I have not heard any indication that the PDBR is going to delay processing cases due to this issue. If corrective language is in the 2010 NDAA, that should be signed into law in the OCT-DEC timeframe.


Mike
 
I sent mine in a few months ago and got a phone call back because I did not send in the original. But the lady said that they were supposed to have everything in place by the end of April and that I was roughly in a stack of 250. I think mine is a clearcut case since the guy that rated my meb said that I had multiple unfitting conditions but since they were not listed they were not going to mention them.
 
Has anyone recieved any type of final decision with the PDBR yet? I am surprised that not one case has been determined, seems like a long time to have zere decisions made. Is thier a legal snag maybe? Any updates from anyone!:confused:
 
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