PTSD not listed as a referred condition

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12bwife

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Hello!

I'm going to try to keep this as short as possible.

My husband has PTSD and had been in treatment for several months and is taking medications. His behavioral health specialist has told us at least 6 times that this is a failing condition due to the severity. However, she has not wrote that specific word in the notes. This was suppose to be a P3 but instead they did another T3 for it that states it is a addendum to his P3 for his MEB. She said he will never be able to deploy again because of his PTSD and he is a 12B.

Yesterday my husband was suppose to sign the initial VA form that lists the referred conditions and then everything else in block 11. He refused to sign it because we have been told numerous times that PTSD would also be a referred condition but they keep telling us to just add it on later. We want it on there now though.

Is there anything we can do? Who would you talk to? I think we are dealing with a lot of miscommunication and we are not getting anywhere with our providers or meb doctor. It's been a frustrating process and not fun for a service member who has PTSD.

Thanks
 
Have him approach the Chief of Mental Health, request an appointment with the chief to discuss the T3. I had an extremely similar situation as one of my providers didn't want to assign PTSD as the diagnosis, i asked for an appointment and spoke to him directly and it was changed that day. Also have him speak to his PEBLO that needs to be on the VA initial claim sheet! Don't let him sign it until the sheet is correct. If he can't achieve this through what I've told you there is an Ombudsman at that hospital tell him to contact them and they will advocate for him. Tell him to calm down and breath this process is gonna be long and painful so cool your jets! Best of luck.
 
12bwife said:
Hello!

I'm going to try to keep this as short as possible.

My husband has PTSD and had been in treatment for several months and is taking medications. His behavioral health specialist has told us at least 6 times that this is a failing condition due to the severity. However, she has not wrote that specific word in the notes. This was suppose to be a P3 but instead they did another T3 for it that states it is a addendum to his P3 for his MEB. She said he will never be able to deploy again because of his PTSD and he is a 12B.

Yesterday my husband was suppose to sign the initial VA form that lists the referred conditions and then everything else in block 11. He refused to sign it because we have been told numerous times that PTSD would also be a referred condition but they keep telling us to just add it on later. We want it on there now though.

Is there anything we can do? Who would you talk to? I think we are dealing with a lot of miscommunication and we are not getting anywhere with our providers or meb doctor. It's been a frustrating process and not fun for a service member who has PTSD.

Thanks
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Indeed, that's sound insightful feedback from @NoSlackBayonet for sure in my opinion! ;)

In addition, has the NARSUM been completed (e.g., dictated) by the assigned MEB Physician at this point in time? If not, then please remember that the DoD IDES MEB phase has several legal opportunities (e.g., IMR and/or MEB Soldier's appeal) to potentially get the PTSD medical condition changed/upgraded to a permanent "S3" code (e.g., "S" category in the PULHES) on the military permanent profile.

That all said, there aren't any worries; just remain positively proactive while in the DoD IDES MEB/PEB process and let the medical documentation/medical evidence show victory at the end of the day (e.g. end of the IDES process)! Take care and continue to enjoy life!

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer."

Best Wishes
 
Does he have a supportive command? If so, the command can request a fit for duty exam, which may provide more support. The mental health team should also be doing a formal fit for duty at their initiative if he is continuing to have problems and the PTSD is considered to be failing retention. He may actually be able to request this himself, or use the ombudsman/patient advocate. Now, get his MH records, just in case he magically becomes fit for duty because the MEB process. And as the folks above have all eloquently stated - sign nothing until it is right. You should expect nothing less.
Best of luck...Bob
 
Thank you all for the support. After many calls I ended up speaking with the Obudsman and he has the ball rolling now. I'll know more by Friday but if all goes as planned his P3 will reflect PTSD by the end of this week. Thanks for giving me the extra drive to seek further assistance!
 
The Narsum hasn't been completed yet, as we haven't had the C and P exam yet. Hopefully we can get this done, so the appointments can be scheduled! Thanks.
Warrior644 said:
Indeed, that's sound insightful feedback from @NoSlackBayonet for sure in my opinion! ;)

In addition, has the NARSUM been completed (e.g., dictated) by the assigned MEB Physician at this point in time? If not, then please remember that the DoD IDES MEB phase has several legal opportunities (e.g., IMR and/or MEB Soldier's appeal) to potentially get the PTSD medical condition changed/upgraded to a permanent "S3" code (e.g., "S" category in the PULHES) on the military permanent profile.

That all said, there aren't any worries; just remain positively proactive while in the DoD IDES MEB/PEB process and let the medical documentation/medical evidence show victory at the end of the day (e.g. end of the IDES process)! Take care and continue to enjoy life!

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer."

Best Wishes
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12bwife said:
The Narsum hasn't been completed yet, as we haven't had the C and P exam yet. Hopefully we can get this done, so the appointments can be scheduled! Thanks.
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Understood; you are welcome and no worries! :)

At least, you are now armed with additional helpful information while in the DoD IDES MEB phase for future use.

That said, please don't hesitate to use all DoD IDES legal services if warranted for sure!

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer."

Best Wishes
 
12bwife said:
Thank you all for the support. After many calls I ended up speaking with the Obudsman and he has the ball rolling now. I'll know more by Friday but if all goes as planned his P3 will reflect PTSD by the end of this week. Thanks for giving me the extra drive to seek further assistance!
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Again, no worries and you are quite welcome! :)

Indeed, never default acceptance to potential injustice and please continue to remain positively proactive throughout the DoD IDES MEB/PEB process for sure! ;) Take care while continuing to enjoy life! :cool:

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer."

Best Wishes
 
We drove into my husbands office late last night to read an encrypted email from his providers sent to his email. It was confirmation that MRDP had been reached for PTSD and they will be adding it as a referred condition on his MEB. Hallelujah! I knew he had met all the failing conditions and we had lots of provider support, we just needed everyone to be on the same page and understand why this was so important.

:) Happy day! Thanks!
 
12bwife said:
We drove into my husbands office late last night to read an encrypted email from his providers sent to his email. It was confirmation that MRDP had been reached for PTSD and they will be adding it as a referred condition on his MEB. Hallelujah! I knew he had met all the failing conditions and we had lots of provider support, we just needed everyone to be on the same page and understand why this was so important.

:) Happy day! Thanks!
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Indeed, this is a "glorious" day for sure; good deal and congratulations! :D

To that extent, please remain positively proactive throughout the DoD IDES MEB/PEB process to ensure receipt of your well-deserved military disability compensation. Take care and continue to enjoy life! :)

Thus, I quite often comment that "possessing well-informed knowledge is truly a powerful equalizer."

Best Wishes!
 
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