PTSD referred for MEB

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Wall-E

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Hello everyone,
I found this site when I was referred to MEB for PTSD back in March 2023. Lurked and learned a bunch, so thank you for relieving some of the stress through education.

I completed my exams August 20th, and VES finally submitted the DBQs so that I could see them on TOL last week.

It looks like the provider checked the 30% for occasional issues and left out a bunch of things like my SI instances and inpatient stay, and what my work life/performance is like now compared to a few years ago.

I guess that when I described everything that my family and I do to cope with my issues, the provider just went with "it works, and he works" and carried on from there. I've been diagnosed since 2016 for 'adjustment disorder' from a 2010 deployment and medicated since 2019. The PTSD diagnosis didn't come till 2023.

So my question is about the guidance regarding PTSD as the referring condition. Does this qualify as the automatic 50% TDRL set to be reevaluated in 6 months category, or is 30% what I'm looking at?

Should I fight for what I think I'm rated as according to the DBQ now, or later after the MEB process is done?

Edit: 15 years in, MI

Thanks for the time!
 
Wall-E said:
Hello everyone,
I found this site when I was referred to MEB for PTSD back in March 2023. Lurked and learned a bunch, so thank you for relieving some of the stress through education.

I completed my exams August 20th, and VES finally submitted the DBQs so that I could see them on TOL last week.

It looks like the provider checked the 30% for occasional issues and left out a bunch of things like my SI instances and inpatient stay, and what my work life/performance is like now compared to a few years ago.

I guess that when I described everything that my family and I do to cope with my issues, the provider just went with "it works, and he works" and carried on from there. I've been diagnosed since 2016 for 'adjustment disorder' from a 2010 deployment and medicated since 2019. The PTSD diagnosis didn't come till 2023.

So my question is about the guidance regarding PTSD as the referring condition. Does this qualify as the automatic 50% TDRL set to be reevaluated in 6 months category, or is 30% what I'm looking at?

Should I fight for what I think I'm rated as according to the DBQ now, or later after the MEB process is done?

Edit: 15 years in, MI

Thanks for the time!
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Are you active duty or guard/reserves? Also, you can challenge the rating later on in the process via a VARR where you send a request to review the ratings and present other evidence that your condition should be rated higher.
 
Provis said:
Are you active duty or guard/reserves? Also, you can challenge the rating later on in the process via a VARR where you send a request to review the ratings and present other evidence that your condition should be rated higher.
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Thanks for that information!
I'm active duty.
 
I concur with asking for a VARR, if you are found unfit. Lots of members with PTSD at 30% are not found unfit. If you want out, call the company the examiner works for and ask for a redo due to errors.
 
chaplaincharlie said:
I concur with asking for a VARR, if you are found unfit. Lots of members with PTSD at 30% are not found unfit. If you want out, call the company the examiner works for and ask for a redo due to errors.
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Should I do that before the VA rates the condition?
My family and I have concerns about the timeline. Asking for a VARR would possibly extend an already long timeline.

I was given a p3 back in May, VES started exams in June and finished in August, with the DBQs under 'review' for 5 weeks. I was due to ETS 09 October, but was given a 6 month extension. Now I'm stuck waiting on ratings during the third government shutdown of my Army service.

I knew that it was time to call it quits after my second SI and subsequent hospital stay. My shrink suggested a MEB, so that's where I'm at right now.
 
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Reference: “Does this qualify as the automatic 50% TDRL”

While on the TDRL, 50% is the lowest percentage paid by DOD.

Ron
 
Update:
VES says that the VA needs to tell them (i.e. pay for) to reschedule an appointment with a new provider.
I called the VA and they registered my complaint, but won't request a redo. VARR was the recommendation.

That's not frustrating at all.
 
I received my proposed ratings today from my PEBLO, and despite the inaccurate DBQ, it seems the rater read into my medical records, because the decision includes things that are in the record that the examiner left out.

70% for PTSD/MDD

Which is what my family and I estimated at the start of the MEB process.

That means that I stand at 80 DoD/ 100 VA if nothing changes.
 
Wall-E said:
I received my proposed ratings today from my PEBLO, and despite the inaccurate DBQ, it seems the rater read into my medical records, because the decision includes things that are in the record that the examiner left out.

70% for PTSD/MDD

Which is what my family and I estimated at the start of the MEB process.

That means that I stand at 80 DoD/ 100 VA if nothing changes.
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Do you have another unfitting condition? If so what %? If the only condition is 70% for PTSD/MDD for unfitting your DOD rating would be 70%
 
Provis said:
Do you have another unfitting condition? If so what %? If the only condition is 70% for PTSD/MDD for unfitting your DOD rating would be 70%
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Yeah, 20% for nerve damage in my left arm
The Dr that was doing steroid injections around the nerve gave me a P3 two months into the MEB process, mainly to keep the unit from messing with me.
To be fair, this is the same unit that made a SM do an ACFT the day after his back profile expired and he had an appointment that morning to renew it. SM did the telephonic meeting during the ACFT. Dr gave a P3 at that moment, and the unit still made the SM finish the test. The SM failed, in case you were curious.
 
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Wall-E said:
Yeah, 20% for nerve damage in my left arm
The Dr that was doing steroid injections around the nerve gave me a P3 two months into the MEB process, mainly to keep the unit from messing with me.
To be fair, this is the same unit that made a SM do an ACFT the day after his back profile expired and he had an appointment that morning to renew it. SM did the telephonic meeting during the ACFT. Dr gave a P3 at that moment, and the unit still made the SM finish the test. The SM failed, in case you were curious.
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Okay nice. Is your PTSD TDRL? If so make sure you keep getting treatment until you get onto PDRL.
 
Wall-E said:
I plan on continuing treatment anyway, but I don't know which list I'll be on till later
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Each condition that is unfitting can be designated as PDRL meaning permanent or TDRL which means temporary. If TDRL its very important to continue with treatment until they change it to PDRL. Unfortunately, after soldiers get out with mental health issues they don't always do that and those who don't get treatment are assumed to be better and lose their medical retirement.
 
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