Still waiting on MEB

Amazing..doesnt suprise me one bit....Im gonna do my damn best not to let that much time waste..I already have state/federal politicians lined up just in case the guard starts that chit...paperwork sittin on desks..no excuses....Im not making more than a few calls to ask for somtin to git done..these politicians are just dying to light a fire up some asses...they r just needing the proof...like this...and the excuses will not be good enough...I guess its bout time to put on the gloves...

THX for ur post and if u have anything else do so....this will help others wid ur story

Hey JASON tell me what u want me to do so I dont call u 50 times...Ill post if ur too busy.....but phone will be easier...

THX

JACK
 
Health Services had mentioned that before my packet goes to the MEB I will be required to do a Fit For Duty Physical.

Does anybody know if this is correct?

I thought the Fit For Duty Physical was only to get a Permanent Profile and I already have a Permanent Profile that has been approved by the State Surgeon.

I think I read somplace in another thread or in one of the regs that I do not have to do a Fit For Duty, but cant seem to find it. If somebody could point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
 
Today I received a phone call from the Texas Army National Guard Health Services office. 10 days after the State Surgeon approved all of my records and my profile for the 3rd time they finally walked my packet across the hall so that I can start the process of putting my MEB packet together.

The SGT I talked with told me that what happened to me is typically what happens and that the State Surgeons Office in need of some house cleaning. I have everything I need for my MEB packet, all I have to do is get my commander to resign a few things with a current date, but that will get taken care of soon since I have drill in about 2 weeks.

The Case Worker in the Health Services office also informed me that because of where I live, my MEB will be at Fort Hood.

Has anybody that is Reserve or National Guard had an MEB at Fort Hood or another active duty Army Installation?

Any heads up on what I should expect as far as the amount of time I will be there, and how things work once I am there would be greatly appreciated.
 
bobo,
Never been to Fort Hood but I can tell you this brother The National Guard Bureau has pulled NGB personnel discharge reg 600-200 reg off the internet for a reason!
They wont give you Jack I didnt even get physical coming home from iraq till 9 months later then I was already in care with VA so I didn't even get a meb.
Read my posts I made the mistake of getting out I was never afforded a MEB/PEB Had i found this site I wouldve stayed and went through the MEB/PEB process now I get to fight them in the the Army BCMR and probably the court system.
 
confusedARNGvet,

Sorry to hear about that, hopefully you will get what is due.

When I got my permanent profile and I saw "PTSD AR 40-501-3 32&33" written on it. I looked it up and saw that both of those sections started with, MEB Required. AR 40-501 also has the information in it about who is eligible for MEB. When i read the part about Reserve component soldiers who are non-retainable/non-deployable due to injuries or conditions incurred while on federal orders, I decided to stay in and stick it out.

I hope it all works out for you with a positive outcome.
 
Jason, Mike and other gurus,

Will yall check on this to see whats the reason behind post #24 statement on pulling 600-200 off the internet. I assume that the motives is to prevent folks from learnin their rights.

JACK
 
I found a copy of 600-200 from 2006 on AKO but thats not accessable to the general internet public. I copied it to my hard drive and will gladly transfer/download it. However, I don't know how that is done on this forum. Google had nothing.
 
I performed a search for this NGB 600-200 regulation and came up with no dice.

Personally, by virtue of being active duty, I've never heard of or come across this regulation. However, I have my doubts that the NGB simply 'pulled' this regulation from the internet in order to suppress any servicemember rights that may be found in the regulation.

This is not to say it is not possible (nor is it to say I'm on anyone's side but the servicemembers) but hard to believe. If the NG did do such a thing (which would have to be a very orchestrated operation considering each state would have to be complicit in taking this reg off the radar) it is borderline criminal.

Has any of the National Guard soldiers on here attempted to contact their units in regard to this regulation? Perhaps the regulation is obsolete? Just playing devil's advocate here folks...

My first inclination would to try and find a hardcopy somewhere, or at least call up my unit or higher command to see if they have a copy.
 
obewan,

If you would send it to me at [email protected], I will post it. Thanks!

Jack,

This is not a new thing, for whatever reason, they have not posted the regs for many years. Many years ago, I had looked for the reg. At the time, they had it posted on Guard Knowledge Online (I have no idea if that site is still operating), but back then, too, it was password protected.

It will be posted here as soon as I get a copy from obewan.
 
Carnelli,

The National Guard Bureau has its own site with pubs, so it could be a centralized effort. But, if you made me speculate, I would say that they are worried about obsolete pubs being used by members, so they keep it behind "closed" doors to make people with a need (and authorization), to get an current regulation. There were quite a lot of revisions post 9/11 with all the mobilizations.

By the way, they are National Guard Regulations (NGRs), and the numbers track with the taxonomy of Army Regulations (ARs).
 
Jason,

Thanks for the lesson on that subject, I am ignorant to the inner-workings of the National Guard!

Since the same taxonomy is used, I'm assuming there are some significant (or perhaps small) variations between NGR 600-200 and AR 600-200?
 
I have never even heard of NGR 600 - 200. Something needs to be done to educate National Guard Leaders starting at the Company level about how this process is supposed to work.

When my Battalion Commander found out about my profile he wanted to administratively discharge me. That was not something that settled well with me, so I did my research and educated them, to a point. Then I hit a roadblock with the State Surgeons Office, but I am hopeful that I will not hit any more serious roadblocks.

This drill my Readiness NCO who is a great guy and has helped me out a lot, is having me go over all of the BS I went through with 2 other soldiers I deployed with who have permanent profiles from combat related injuries. I just hope my experience will help them move through the process a bit more smoothly than I did and if it helps them out, then everything I have dealt with so far was worth it.
 
FYI 600-200 can be found on AKO. I don't spend much time on GKO but I's bet it's there. I seriously doubt there is a centralized effort to keep guardsmen in the dark, but on the other hand there's plenty of pencil whiping and "just sign here" BS. The suspicion I have is the stigma of being "part time" soldiers leads to some real lopsided seperations. Joe snuffy is just as common in the guard, infact I would say a part timer has less knowledge of personnel actions than his AC counterpart.
Im my case if I had not lost my job I would not have the time to see my MEB through. It would have died on someoens desk at the state HQ and I would have ETS come July. RC guys just want to be left alone to tend to their families after deployment. Little interest or knoledge of VA beni's or title 61 retirement.
I think in a few years old broken guardsmen are gonna be all over the place.

Ok so I rant. . . now I'm done.
 
I found NGR 600 - 200 on AKO. All I could find in it about the medical process for soldiers who were injured in the line of duty was, that it will follow the guidlines of "NGR 40-3 Medical Care For Army National Guard Members", which I was unable to find on AKO or on the web.
 
Once again this NGR publication which is critical to guys like us is not easy to find. I also did not find it on google, AKO is down right now so I havent checked yet.
I am starting to believe this is intentional, hmm. . . I'll try to find it after lunch.
Obewan
 
I found it!. It's really old . . . 1978. But if you'd like I can send it to you, post and address please.
Obewan
 
You should be sure that it applies. I think it does not. AR 635-40 discusses how to process RC Soldiers. You either use active duty procedures or if the case is non-duty related, use the processes for that situation.
 
Are you just a M-Day Soldier? If so, your MEB will be going through Camp Mabry, Austin, Texas.
 
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