USAR AGR - Fort Campbell IDES Process

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Army31B4O

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Don't see much for the USAR AGR side so I figured I would post my time line as well.

Referred for imaging due to chronic knee issue - 3 Sept 2025
MRI Found MRDP Issue - 15 Oct 2025
MEB Referral - 18 Nov 2025
Initial Contact from MEB Office: 1 Dec 2025
Initial PEBLO Briefing - 10 DEC 2025
MEB Initial Eval Video Appt - 12 Dec 2025
MSC initial appointment - 8 Jan 2026
Commander Returned 7652- 8 Jan 2026
First C&P - 12 Jan 2026
Last C&P - 19 Jan 2026
TAPS Initial Counseling - 5 Feb 2026
TAPS Pre- Sep Briefing - 9 Feb 2026
NARSUM Prepared - 17 Feb 26
NARSUM Review Appt - 24 Feb 26
Declined NARSUM due to missing conditions- 25 Feb 26
Corrected NARSUM Received and Concurred - 2 Mar 26
NASRUM submitted to PEB - 4 Mar 26
Determined UNFIT for Duty - CIF Turn in Directed - 23 Mar 26
 
Did your PEBLO tell you the determination of the PEB? I haven’t heard anything lately, but my NARSUM went to the PEB a few weeks before yours did.
 
So all she’s told me today was that the PEB found me unfit and that they are waiting for my ratings to come back from the VA to be able to assign percentages for DOD
 
Army31B4O said:
So all she’s told me today was that the PEB found me unfit and that they are waiting for my ratings to come back from the VA to be able to assign percentages for DOD
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Okay awesome. Thanks! I emailed my PEBLO to be nosey and see if she has an update. I don’t understand how they decide any of these timelines lol some peoples are so fast
 
Army31B4O said:
Don't see much for the USAR AGR side so I figured I would post my time line as well.

Referred for imaging due to chronic knee issue - 3 Sept 2025
MRI Found MRDP Issue - 15 Oct 2025
MEB Referral - 18 Nov 2025
Initial Contact from MEB Office: 1 Dec 2025
Initial PEBLO Briefing - 10 DEC 2025
MEB Initial Eval Video Appt - 12 Dec 2025
MSC initial appointment - 8 Jan 2026
Commander Returned 7652- 8 Jan 2026
First C&P - 12 Jan 2026
Last C&P - 19 Jan 2026
TAPS Initial Counseling - 5 Feb 2026
TAPS Pre- Sep Briefing - 9 Feb 2026
NARSUM Prepared - 17 Feb 26
NARSUM Review Appt - 24 Feb 26
Declined NARSUM due to missing conditions- 25 Feb 26
Corrected NARSUM Received and Concurred - 2 Mar 26
NASRUM submitted to PEB - 4 Mar 26
Determined UNFIT for Duty - CIF Turn in Directed - 23 Mar 26
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Yup! You are on an island. My wife was an O4 AGR with 17AFS and 20 good years. Make sure to continue to advocate for yourself! Chances are no one in your unit will have any clue what you are going through.
 
Army31B4O said:
Don't see much for the USAR AGR side so I figured I would post my time line as well.

Referred for imaging due to chronic knee issue - 3 Sept 2025
MRI Found MRDP Issue - 15 Oct 2025
MEB Referral - 18 Nov 2025
Initial Contact from MEB Office: 1 Dec 2025
Initial PEBLO Briefing - 10 DEC 2025
MEB Initial Eval Video Appt - 12 Dec 2025
MSC initial appointment - 8 Jan 2026
Commander Returned 7652- 8 Jan 2026
First C&P - 12 Jan 2026
Last C&P - 19 Jan 2026
TAPS Initial Counseling - 5 Feb 2026
TAPS Pre- Sep Briefing - 9 Feb 2026
NARSUM Prepared - 17 Feb 26
NARSUM Review Appt - 24 Feb 26
Declined NARSUM due to missing conditions- 25 Feb 26
Corrected NARSUM Received and Concurred - 2 Mar 26
NASRUM submitted to PEB - 4 Mar 26
Determined UNFIT for Duty - CIF Turn in Directed - 23 Mar 26
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VA App shows compensation claim at step 5/5 - 24 Mar 26
 
Update:
Received DA199 and proposed ratings - 20% DoD/100% VA - 7 April 2026

Trying to decide whether to appeal the DoD side, request COAR to hit 20 years, or just accept the MED SEP
 
Army31B4O said:
Update:
Received DA199 and proposed ratings - 20% DoD/100% VA - 7 April 2026

Trying to decide whether to appeal the DoD side, request COAR to hit 20 years, or just accept the MED SEP
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NEVER COAR unless you are super close to age 60 or if you don't have enough AFS to do COAD! You request COAD instead. The only way COAR works is if you are not close to 20 AFS and you are trying to stay in to get 20 year letter instead of 15 year letter.

If I had to rank choices my first choice would be FPEB to add an additional unfitting condition to reach 30% DOD and or a VARR to elevate an existing condition that's DOD rating is too low. If that fails I would apply for COAD to finish out your AGR time to get to 20 year regular immediate retirement. Lastly would be COAR if you are nowhere near 20 AFS and can't do COAD or COAR is you are 55+ and so the wait for being able to take advantage of your 20 year letter is soon.

I had someone on here not understand the implications. They had an approved medical retirement with a DOD% of over 30% and applied for COAR. Was accepted. Didn't realize if approved for COAR or COAD that it nullifies the results of iPEB/FPEB. They finished up as a guard/reservist and then thought they could go back and medically retired. What they actually did was choose to get a 20 year letter that they wouldn't be able to use for decades because they were in their late 30's. So no tricare and no compensation except VA compensation. With a chapter 61 retirement meaning 30% DOD or higher its immediate retirement with tricare for life for you and your family. Any VA pay will offset the pension but that pension is your floor. If your VA pay goes to zero the floor for compensation is your chapter 61 pension compensation. With an immediate chapter 61 pension you also can apply for CRSC. CRSC allows you to get additional compensation to claw back some of the VA offset that was lost up to the CRSC pay amount or the value of your earned longevity pension (whichever is lower.)
 
Provis said:
NEVER COAR unless you are super close to age 60 or if you don't have enough AFS to do COAD! You request COAD instead. The only way COAR works is if you are not close to 20 AFS and you are trying to stay in to get 20 year letter instead of 15 year letter.

If I had to rank choices my first choice would be FPEB to add an additional unfitting condition to reach 30% DOD and or a VARR to elevate an existing condition that's DOD rating is too low. If that fails I would apply for COAD to finish out your AGR time to get to 20 year regular immediate retirement. Lastly would be COAR if you are nowhere near 20 AFS and can't do COAD or COAR is you are 55+ and so the wait for being able to take advantage of your 20 year letter is soon.

I had someone on here not understand the implications. They had an approved medical retirement with a DOD% of over 30% and applied for COAR. Was accepted. Didn't realize if approved for COAR or COAD that it nullifies the results of iPEB/FPEB. They finished up as a guard/reservist and then thought they could go back and medically retired. What they actually did was choose to get a 20 year letter that they wouldn't be able to use for decades because they were in their late 30's. So no tricare and no compensation except VA compensation. With a chapter 61 retirement meaning 30% DOD or higher its immediate retirement with tricare for life for you and your family. Any VA pay will offset the pension but that pension is your floor. If your VA pay goes to zero the floor for compensation is your chapter 61 pension compensation. With an immediate chapter 61 pension you also can apply for CRSC. CRSC allows you to get additional compensation to claw back some of the VA offset that was lost up to the CRSC pay amount or the value of your earned longevity pension (whichever is lower.)
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So im at 18 years overall with 13 years of AFS, I have an appointment with Legal tomorrow. A L3 profile is what triggered my MEB, but the PEB only considered my knees, when my L Ankle got 20 and right ankle got 10 as well so hopefully i can get them added and reconsidered, The only thing that has me considering just taking the severance is that according to my PEBLO since my injuries were in afghanistan and its documented on the 199 I wouldn't have the severance recouped and could use CHAMPVA in lieu of tricare for life.
 
Army31B4O said:
So im at 18 years overall with 13 years of AFS, I have an appointment with Legal tomorrow. A L3 profile is what triggered my MEB, but the PEB only considered my knees, when my L Ankle got 20 and right ankle got 10 as well so hopefully i can get them added and reconsidered, The only thing that has me considering just taking the severance is that according to my PEBLO since my injuries were in afghanistan and its documented on the 199 I wouldn't have the severance recouped and could use CHAMPVA in lieu of tricare for life.
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I would rather do COAR than severance. I would rather take a 15 year letter than severance. Tricare is that important. My wife has a ton of health issues and uses the VA for pretty much everything. Even with that being the case she has used tricare to cover prescriptions that the VA wouldn't cover. In my opinion its way better to have Tricare and VA than only VA. If CHAMPVA changes in the future you are their mercy. At the very least I would try to get COAR then. The best case is to get that DOD% up to 30% though. Also remember with a 20 year letter if you can do COAR at least you can get all of your VA compensation in the meantime and then at age 60 (or slightly less if reduced to due qualified deployments) you get the value of your Guard/Reserve pension which with 13 AFS is not a small amount in addition to your VA compensation.
 
Army31B4O said:
So im at 18 years overall with 13 years of AFS, I have an appointment with Legal tomorrow. A L3 profile is what triggered my MEB, but the PEB only considered my knees, when my L Ankle got 20 and right ankle got 10 as well so hopefully i can get them added and reconsidered, The only thing that has me considering just taking the severance is that according to my PEBLO since my injuries were in afghanistan and its documented on the 199 I wouldn't have the severance recouped and could use CHAMPVA in lieu of tricare for life.
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Also with AGR you are both which is what my wife was. If they allow you to do COAR then you would REFRAD and continue to drill until your reach 20 good years. Then you get to be put in retired reserves which is gray area retirement as you are awaiting pay. Pretty much anything but severance is better. In fact, at 18 years if they don't raise your DOD% and decline your COAR packet you could definitely get some traction in your favor by doing a congressional inquiry. The civilian side gets pretty pissed when they hear of Soldiers being booted out and losing a retirement when at 18 years.

I didn't even know you could accept severance because most of the time Soldiers decline it and are issued a 15 year letter so they still get their pension. Then even if a 15 year letter doesn't give you concurrent receipt and there is a still an offset of your VA pay its possible to recoup that money via CRSC once you are retired at age 60. With injuries in combat zone there's a good chance you would get CRSC compensation. Its just hard for me to find any reason to give up on a retirement just to get a one time check. The value of the pension and tricare would far exceed the value of the lump some severance payment. Also, in both scenarios you get CHAMPVA if 100% P&T.
 
23 APR 26 - VARR increased ratings recieved. Directed to RETIRE no later than 22 July 26. Just submitted TAA ISAA and Terminal leave and built RFO par
 
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