CRSC Payment Estimate Assistance

Good morning, I know this is asked a lot but I just cannot seem to calculate my expected CRSC payment will be. I just received the approval letter…

CRSC Calculation - Information

*Gross DOD - $4,504

*DOD Disability - 75% (82%)

*VA 100% with Spouse - 3,823.89

*CRSC Rating - 100% combat related

*Total Service - 10 years, 0 months, 4 days

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks so much!

 

[Provis]

Does Gross DOD mean the amount of your chapter 61 retirement before VA offset?

 

[Provis]

Good morning, I know this is asked a lot but I just cannot seem to calculate my expected CRSC payment will be. I just received the approval letter…

CRSC Calculation - Information

*Gross DOD - $4,504

*DOD Disability - 75% (82%)

*VA 100% with Spouse - 3,823.89

*CRSC Rating - 100% combat related

*Total Service - 10 years, 0 months, 4 days

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks so much!

See calculations. I assume you are 2.5% per year. If blended that changes the calculations. Assuming $4,504 is your chapter 61 pay and that by dividing it by 75% equals $6,005 as your high 3. If those 2 assumptions are correct the CRSC calculations below should be right.

HIGH 3 PAY	6005​
DOD DISABILITY PERCENTAGE	75​
CRSC AWARD*(DOLLAR AMOUNT)	3823.89​
	YEARS	MONTHS
TIME OF SERVICE	10​
MONTHLY V.A. PAY	3823.89​
CRSC PAY	821.39​
RESIDUAL RETIRED PAY	679.86​
TOTAL FROM DFAS	1501.25​
Total Pay	5325.14​

 

[Provis]

Alternate calculation. If 4504 is your high 3 then this would be correct below if pension is 2.5% per year. If blended at 2% the calculations for the first one and this one will be incorrect.

HIGH 3 PAY	4504​
DOD DISABILITY PERCENTAGE	75​
CRSC AWARD*(DOLLAR AMOUNT)	3823.89​
	YEARS	MONTHS
TIME OF SERVICE	10​
MONTHLY V.A. PAY	3823.89​
CRSC PAY	1126.00​
RESIDUAL RETIRED PAY	0
TOTAL FROM DFAS	1126.00​
Total Pay	4949.89​

 

[WalkingWarrant]

See calculations. I assume you are 2.5% per year. If blended that changes the calculations. Assuming $4,504 is your chapter 61 pay and that by dividing it by 75% equals $6,005 as your high 3. If those 2 assumptions are correct the CRSC calculations below should be right.

HIGH 3 PAY	6005​
DOD DISABILITY PERCENTAGE	75​
CRSC AWARD*(DOLLAR AMOUNT)	3823.89​
	YEARS	MONTHS
TIME OF SERVICE	10​
MONTHLY V.A. PAY	3823.89​
CRSC PAY	821.39​
RESIDUAL RETIRED PAY	679.86​
TOTAL FROM DFAS	1501.25​
Total Pay	5325.14​

Provis,

Thank you so much for the quick reply and the number you listed for the High 3 is accurate and also what you listed for CRSC is pretty much what I had. I wanted to run it by others more versed in the formula. Of course I was hoping it would be more.

I know it’s a bit off topic, but any insight on the Major Richard Star Act? If passed and enacted, will it changed much for those with 100% CRSC? I know it has not been clarified if passed what will the Veteran get longevity or disability multiplier…

 

[Provis]

Provis,

Thank you so much for the quick reply and the number you listed for the High 3 is accurate and also what you listed for CRSC is pretty much what I had. I wanted to run it by others more versed in the formula. Of course I was hoping it would be more.

I know it’s a bit off topic, but any insight on the Major Richard Star Act? If passed and enacted, will it changed much for those with 100% CRSC? I know it has not been clarified if passed what will the Veteran get longevity or disability multiplier…

No change for you or others. All these programs were created to fix the unfair VA offset. So you can never get more than your earned longevity + VA compensation in all cases.

 

[Reaper6G]

Good morning, I know this is asked a lot but I just cannot seem to calculate my expected CRSC payment will be. I just received the approval letter…

CRSC Calculation - Information

*Gross DOD - $4,504

*DOD Disability - 75% (82%)

*VA 100% with Spouse - 3,823.89

*CRSC Rating - 100% combat related

*Total Service - 10 years, 0 months, 4 days

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks so much!

Approximately, how long did it take for you to receive the approval letter

 

[NavyICE]

No change for you or others. All these programs were created to fix the unfair VA offset. So you can never get more than your earned longevity + VA compensation in all cases.

Hi Provis, I was wondering if you could share a source for that conclusion? From what I've been able to read on the proposed Star Act I cant find anywhere that talks about capping the offset rollback at longevity + VA (ex WWP one-pager or source text of bill). My naive lay-person reading actually seems like it would eliminate the offset entirely for qualifying Ch61 retirees (ie receive all VA disability + all DOD retirement pay {often based on DOD disability rating not longevity}).

I've read the forum long enough to understand that you know this stuff *way* better than I ever will, so just trying to educate myself on what I'm missing.

Thanks!

 

[Provis]

Hi Provis, I was wondering if you could share a source for that conclusion? From what I've been able to read on the proposed Star Act I cant find anywhere that talks about capping the offset rollback at longevity + VA (ex WWP one-pager or source text of bill). My naive lay-person reading actually seems like it would eliminate the offset entirely for qualifying Ch61 retirees (ie receive all VA disability + all DOD retirement pay {often based on DOD disability rating not longevity}).

I've read the forum long enough to understand that you know this stuff *way* better than I ever will, so just trying to educate myself on what I'm missing.

Thanks!

The bill was created to ensure all of the VA offset is eliminated for combat veterans. This helps a small amount of SM's since most that qualify for CRSC that are retired have enough from CRSC coverage to claw back or recoup that funds lost. However, some combat vets have 30% CRSC but were an officer with 19 years for example. 100% VA is about 4k and so 30% CRSC will leave a lot of money on the table that is unfairly taken away from the combat veteran solely because they couldn't get to 20 years to qualify for CRDP.

Look at all the supporting organizations and even what the bill sponsors say about why the bill was created and what it would do. The wording and text of the bill may have others think differently but when you take a step back and see the big picture its plain to see. The beginning of the bill states: "To amend title 10, United States Code, to provide for concurrent receipt of veterans’ disability compensation and retired pay for disability retirees with fewer than 20 years of service and a combat-related disability, and for other purposes." I could go on about there isn't even a funding mechanism to pay Soldiers more than they would have earned etc. but the main point is that this bill was created for a narrow swath of combat veterans who are currently not getting their full longevity earned due to VA offset and CRSC didn't make them whole.

Lastly, think of how hard it is to get this bill passed? There is no way congress is going to sign off on a completed bill that pays Soldiers more money in history and set a precedent that SM's can get more compensation than what they are already entitled to. This is just another patchwork legislation to partially fix an injustice. After this passes the focus will be on CRDP for those that have under 50% VA disability.

 

[RonG]

Hello,

1. Recently, I read a comment on another site for veterans where a veteran said he was confident the lawmakers knew what they were doing and they understand the computations involved.

2. I almost lost my coffee over the confidence in lawmakers part of his remarks. Just look to the convoluted roll out of CRDP many years ago and the "CRSC Glitch" that cheated disability retirees that was not fixed by lawmakers until January 2013. See Mike Parker's "CRSC Glitch" comments on this board from ~a decade ago.

3. I am in favor of all retirees receiving CRDP-like payments to cover the VA offset. I choose not to debate the amount or limitations. I wonder how the debt ceiling discussions will impact the STARR ACT.

Just my unsolicited opinions on the subject.

Ron

 

[Provis]

Hello,

1. Recently, I read a comment on another site for veterans where a veteran said he was confident the lawmakers knew what they were doing and they understand the computations involved.

2. I almost lost my coffee over the confidence in lawmakers part of his remarks. Just look to the convoluted roll out of CRDP many years ago and the "CRSC Glitch" that cheated disability retirees that was not fixed by lawmakers until January 2013. See Mike Parker's "CRSC Glitch" comments on this board from ~a decade ago.

3. I am in favor of all retirees receiving CRDP-like payments to cover the VA offset. I choose not to debate the amount or limitations. I wonder how the debt ceiling discussions will impact the STARR ACT.

Just my unsolicited opinions on the subject.

Ron

Your input is always appreciated!

 

[RonG]

You are doing a fine job.

I like to include you ("cc") on certain posts that might be interesting to you OR have some oddity.

Ron