2024 CRSC Pay Amounts —VA Comp Tables and longevity amounts are used

Hello,

I am 100% medically retired but they gave me only 20% CRSC but I sent up more paperwork. Will I get something back at 20%?
 
Hello @Whoman80

Your CRSC at 20% (taking into account the number of your AD Years) will likely be:
the amount shown in the VA Compensation Tables for 20%

Disability rating Monthly payment (in U.S. $) 20% 338.49

Ron
 
How long does it take to get your first payment after you your award letter?

Thanks

Perhaps you can use the SEARCH BUTTON on this site and look for “first payment of CRSC”.

DFAS says:
“In addition to monthly CRSC payments, you may be eligible for a retroactive payment. DFAS will audit your account to determine whether or not you are due retroactive payment. An audit of your account requires researching pay information from both DFAS and VA.”

“If DFAS finds you are also due a retroactive payment from the VA, we will forward an audit to the VA. They are responsible for paying any money they may owe you.”

I don’t keep up with moving timelines.

Good luck,
Ron
 
Hello @TerryH1950 ,

Additionally, there are CRSC ceilings.

Many disability retirees receive the hypothetical longevity portion of their retirement pay as CRSC.

Active duty equivalent x 2.5% (or 2% for blended retirement) = longevity multiplier
Average high three base pay x longevity multiplier = hypothetical longevity amount (and CRSC ceiling)

Chapter 61 Disability Retirees:
Each CH 61 case involves these ceilings and other factors:

—Must be entitled to retired pay
—Agrees to waive retired pay in the amount of VA compensation received.
—CRSC cannot exceed the amount of the waived retired pay.
—CRSC cannot exceed the amount of the approved CRSC percentage (amt in VA Comp tables).
—CRSC cannot exceed the dollar amount of the longevity portion of retired pay.
—CRSC when combined with residual retired pay cannot exceed the longevity amount.

As one can see, more than one of the ceilings shown above could apply to the retiree. In those cases, the lesser amount is the CRSC amount.

Those who have a regular or reserve retirement receive the amount in the VA compensation tables using the CRSC approved percentage, but not to exceed the longevity portion of retirement pay.

My own example with regular retirement :
VA comp $4000 +, due to 100% VA Rating and two SMCs
CRSC approved percentage = 100%
Amount of CRSC paid = ~$3450 which is my the same as my retired pay after 33 years of COLA increases @E9

Ron
Good evening.
I need some help and guidance. Due to a TBI I have a difficult time finding information, and worse I can’t make sense of it enough to take the steps needed. My situation is as follows:

Age 40
E7
ARMY/USAR 21 yrs
3 deployments Iraq/Afgh= 5 yrs AD
CAB
100% VA P&T
I have stayed in the reserve for the past several years because of my son’s condition that tricare has been covering. I’m at a point now that I physically and mentally can no longer serve at the level that is expected of me. My question is, am I better off taking my regular reserve retirement and lose the subsidized tricare? Or should I allow them to MEDBOARD me? I am so confused with what I should do. My main priority is to make sure my family has good healthcare (tricare reserve select has been amazing). Tricare retired is like 1k per month for my family. I know that I can’t draw my standard reserve pension until I’m 60. I’m hoping someone can explain to me (like really dumbed down) what my options are? I am extremely overwhelmed and can’t find any clear info specific to my situation. My MEB will be for combat related. Thank you all
 
Hello @TimTechTwo ,

Here are some remarks from one of the few members of this forum who did NOT experience a MEB/PEB.

Do you have 20 good years for retirement? If so, you can apply for a reserve retirement at ~60 even if you initially receive a chapter 61 disability retirement. Thirty percent (30%) DoD disability rating is required for disability retirement.

One is also eligible for TRICARE while having a disability retirement.

Your retirement pay would be reduced by the amount of your VA compensation. Approved CRSC could replace some or all of the reduced/waived retirement pay.

Ron
 
Good evening.
I need some help and guidance. Due to a TBI I have a difficult time finding information, and worse I can’t make sense of it enough to take the steps needed. My situation is as follows:

Age 40
E7
ARMY/USAR 21 yrs
3 deployments Iraq/Afgh= 5 yrs AD
CAB
100% VA P&T
I have stayed in the reserve for the past several years because of my son’s condition that tricare has been covering. I’m at a point now that I physically and mentally can no longer serve at the level that is expected of me. My question is, am I better off taking my regular reserve retirement and lose the subsidized tricare? Or should I allow them to MEDBOARD me? I am so confused with what I should do. My main priority is to make sure my family has good healthcare (tricare reserve select has been amazing). Tricare retired is like 1k per month for my family. I know that I can’t draw my standard reserve pension until I’m 60. I’m hoping someone can explain to me (like really dumbed down) what my options are? I am extremely overwhelmed and can’t find any clear info specific to my situation. My MEB will be for combat related. Thank you all
Medboard, plain and simple. Because as of right now, even if you were to be able to take an early reserve retirement i.e. before 60, you are still stuck with the Tricare Reserve Retiree costs until you turn 60. You can get medboarded now and once retired under Ch 61 you can apply for CRSC which will give you an additional amount on top of your VA compensation IF approved and subject to limitations.
 
Hello @TimTechTwo ,

Here are some remarks from one of the few members of this forum who did NOT experience a MEB/PEB.

Do you have 20 good years for retirement? If so, you can apply for a reserve retirement at ~60 even if you initially receive a chapter 61 disability retirement. Thirty percent (30%) DoD disability rating is required for disability retirement.

One is also eligible for TRICARE while having a disability retirement.

Your retirement pay would be reduced by the amount of your VA compensation. Approved CRSC could replace some or all of the reduced/waived retirement pay.

Ron
Thank you for the info. By the time MEB is finished I’ll have 22-23 good years. I have several ratings from the VA, one is 100% combat related. Currently I have about 3200 points.
 
Medboard, plain and simple. Because as of right now, even if you were to be able to take an early reserve retirement i.e. before 60, you are still stuck with the Tricare Reserve Retiree costs until you turn 60. You can get medboarded now and once retired under Ch 61 you can apply for CRSC which will give you an additional amount on top of your VA compensation IF approved and subject to limitations.
Thank you sir!
Im struggling with the CRSC calculations.
 
Thank you sir!
Im struggling with the CRSC calculations.
Hello,

The following is needed for an estimate:

1. Average high three base pay OR better, the GROSS RETIRED PAY from your DFAS RAS. State which is the source.
The average high three base pay is the total of the highest 36 months of base pay divided by 36.
2. DoD disability retirement percentage
3. Active duty equivalent (this info is found on your retirement orders as DISABILITY RETIREMENT xx years xx months xx days
4. VA compensation
— percentage
—amount
—dependents by category and age
—any SMCs ?
5. Did you have the blended retirement plan?
6. Approved CRSC percentage

Ron
 
As long as you apply for your reserve retirement, as it is not automatic at age 60. You need to get your retirement packet in at least 6-9 months prior. I'm actually putting together mine this coming weekend. My best friend's took 8-9 months so I'm prepping early.
What would happen if someone did not apply for their retirement at age 60?

In my situation. I'm retired ch. 61 with 22 credible years (9 yrs active duty) of service according to the MEB & PEB orders; But according to HRC calculations they're only showing 19.
But anyway, If i'm collecting VA 100%, DOD 80%, and will be applying for CRSC soon. My cap for CRSC is looking around 60%. So If I get around there, i'm 40 years old now, in 20 years, I just don't apply for anything. I wonder Will I continue to get my CRSC amount??
 
What would happen if someone did not apply for their retirement at age 60?

In my situation. I'm retired ch. 61 with 22 credible years (9 yrs active duty) of service according to the MEB & PEB orders; But according to HRC calculations they're only showing 19.
But anyway, If i'm collecting VA 100%, DOD 80%, and will be applying for CRSC soon. My cap for CRSC is looking around 60%. So If I get around there, i'm 40 years old now, in 20 years, I just don't apply for anything. I wonder Will I continue to get my CRSC amount??
Yes, you will since you're Ch 61, basically, you're Ch 61 for the rest of your life, same goes for CRSC and, unless you have any VA ratings that change for conditions that were approved for CRSC, then you can request a reconsideration to get your CRSC increased.
 
Yes, you will since you're Ch 61, basically, you're Ch 61 for the rest of your life, same goes for CRSC and, unless you have any VA ratings that change for conditions that were approved for CRSC, then you can request a reconsideration to get your CRSC increased.
oh okay. I thought, it was MANDATORY for Army Reservist, even when they're ch. 61 medically retired, who has 20+ years of credible service apply for their non-regular retirement when they reach age 60.
Good to know it's not.
 
oh okay. I thought, it was MANDATORY for Army Reservist, even when they're ch. 61 medically retired, who has 20+ years of credible service apply for their non-regular retirement when they reach age 60.
Good to know it's not.
I'm also Ch 61, however, not combat-related, therefore I will be applying for my non-regular retirement, I'm actually in the process of doing that and will be sending it to HRC in the next few days (I hope lol). When you're Ch 61 and under 20 years of active duty (i.e. you and I since I don't have 7200 points either) AND you're maxed out for CRSC, applying for non-regular retirement is moot since you're essentially getting a non-regular CMRP (new name for CRDP btw) but before age 60 AND it's non-taxable, win-win imho.
 
I am SO confused by all of these calculations everyone is posting.

I’ve been collecting VA and CRSC for over 10 years.

But my CRSC is about $890/month; but I have 100% P&T with SMC and 2 kids.

My crsc disability rating is also 100% and combat related. I served 9 years and 11 months…and if the high 3 pay monthly is just salary then mine was an average of $2850/month.

Can someone please help me understand why my crsc is below $1,000? When I got out I was on TDRL and then 2 years later they made it permanent and that’s when I applied for the CRSC.

I am 44 years old if that matters.

I’ll attach the photos of my pay without my name or anything else.

Please help because I’m so confused and feel stupid reading the FAQ pages about this. Sorry if I duplicated any photos.

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I am SO confused by all of these calculations everyone is posting.

I’ve been collecting VA and CRSC for over 10 years.

But my CRSC is about $890/month; but I have 100% P&T with SMC and 2 kids.

My crsc disability rating is also 100% and combat related. I served 9 years and 11 months…and if the high 3 pay monthly is just salary then mine was an average of $2850/month.

Can someone please help me understand why my crsc is below $1,000? When I got out I was on TDRL and then 2 years later they made it permanent and that’s when I applied for the CRSC.

I am 44 years old if that matters.

I’ll attach the photos of my pay without my name or anything else.

Please help because I’m so confused and feel stupid reading the FAQ pages about this. Sorry if I duplicated any photos.
Understand that CRSC is strictly based on your length of service, not based on how much you would have gotten for your Ch 61 retirement. It doesn't matter that the PEB or VA stated that your condition(s) are combat-related as CRSC was written under a different set of laws, nor that you're 100% for VA or CRSC for that matter: you'll still be capped by your length of service, i.e. years x 2.5% x high average 36 for your grade at time of retirement
 
I am SO confused by all of these calculations everyone is posting.

I’ve been collecting VA and CRSC for over 10 years.

But my CRSC is about $890/month; but I have 100% P&T with SMC and 2 kids.

My crsc disability rating is also 100% and combat related. I served 9 years and 11 months…and if the high 3 pay monthly is just salary then mine was an average of $2850/month.

Can someone please help me understand why my crsc is below $1,000? When I got out I was on TDRL and then 2 years later they made it permanent and that’s when I applied for the CRSC.

I am 44 years old if that matters.

I’ll attach the photos of my pay without my name or anything else.

Please help because I’m so confused and feel stupid reading the FAQ pages about this. Sorry if I duplicated any photos.

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FOR YOUR SITUATION
so you basically serve 10 years active duty
you say high 3's is $2850

10years x 2.5% = 25% multiplier
high 3s is = $2850
$2850 x 25% = $712 [ this is about how much you would get had you not did chapter 61, this is also the MAX CRSC will pay EVEN if you get 100%CRSC which pays at the $3,800 range for a single veteran]

A LOT of vet doesn't understand the LONGEVITY MAX IN CRSC.. They think they suppose to get higher.
Hopefully you understand, you MAXed Out.
 
FOR YOUR SITUATION
so you basically serve 10 years active duty
you say high 3's is $2850

10years x 2.5% = 25% multiplier
high 3s is = $2850
$2850 x 25% = $712 [ this is about how much you would get had you not did chapter 61, this is also the MAX CRSC will pay EVEN if you get 100%CRSC which pays at the $3,800 range for a single veteran]

A LOT of vet doesn't understand the LONGEVITY MAX IN CRSC.. They think they suppose to get higher.
Hopefully you understand, you MAXed Out.
It makes sense really. Not sure why people get mad and think they are getting screwed. You can't get compensation twice for the same thing. So if you get all of your earned pension amount and all of your VA compensation there is nothing left to compensate you.
 
I never said I was getting screwed; I just didn’t understand the calculation as it seemingly appeared as though I was to get a higher amount.

Thank you for the clarification and explanation.
 
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