CRSC Calculation + Questions

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I was recently medically retired Army reservist (July 2024) and was confused on CRSC. I read somewhere that it removed VA pay and was afraid it would somehow lower my monthly amount. Re-looking into it now, I don’t believe that would be the case. I’ve gotten different numbers in the past on the CRSC calculator and would appreciate it if someone who knows the system could assist. I don’t want to inadvertently screw myself over somehow.

Also, does CRSC cancel once I hit retirement age (58-60), or is it permanent (replaces CRDP)?

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. If you need more information, I’ll try to provide it.

Chapter 61 on PDRL

1. Gross Retired Pay on DFAS RAS: $3,369.00

2. DoD disability rating: 70% (combat related)

3. Years of service: 9 years, 11 Months, 5 Days (Active Points: 2673, Total Points: 3576)

4. I have 90% VA Compensation, $2,559.30, with Spouse

5. My disability was rated at 70% combat related

6. I have my 20-year letter but am receiving reservist retirement pay now. Enlisted in 2003 and did not join the blended retirement system.
 
So, first off, NO, it does NOT remove VA pay; this is above and beyond your VA compensation. When you are 6-9 months out from being age-eligible for reserve retirement, you still need to apply. At which time, when you hit your selected date of retirement (60 or earlier if eligible for Early Reserve Retirement), you'll get a letter from DFAS to select either CRSC or CMRP/CRDP and the dollar amounts for each. If one is maxed out for CRSC (based on longevity) you might not need to change to CMRP as CRSC is non-taxable whereas CMRP is taxable, albeit, your CMRP "shouldn't" be taxed, considering your Ch 61 retirement pay is non-taxable due to being combat-related under 26 USC 104. I'm not the mathing guy, but a rough guestimate would be that your high-36 = $4,812.85 x 2.5% x (3576 / 360) = $1,203.20 for your maximum based on length of service. For CRSC purposes, you would only need to be approved for 50% (vet + spouse = $1,241.90)
 
RetiredColonel-MikeT said:
So, first off, NO, it does NOT remove VA pay; this is above and beyond your VA compensation. When you are 6-9 months out from being age-eligible for reserve retirement, you still need to apply. At which time, when you hit your selected date of retirement (60 or earlier if eligible for Early Reserve Retirement), you'll get a letter from DFAS to select either CRSC or CMRP/CRDP and the dollar amounts for each. If one is maxed out for CRSC (based on longevity) you might not need to change to CMRP as CRSC is non-taxable whereas CMRP is taxable, albeit, your CMRP "shouldn't" be taxed, considering your Ch 61 retirement pay is non-taxable due to being combat-related under 26 USC 104. I'm not the mathing guy, but a rough guestimate would be that your high-36 = $4,812.85 x 2.5% x (3576 / 360) = $1,203.20 for your maximum based on length of service. For CRSC purposes, you would only need to be approved for 50% (vet + spouse = $1,241.90)
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@RetiredColonel-MikeT i did look up the group on Facebook I posted a question only to find out my post was taken down because I just signed up. So left the group. My question was about crsc. How can that group make you wait to get answers to crsc when CRSC its self is confusing to begin with.
 
Bgere said:
@RetiredColonel-MikeT i did look up the group on Facebook I posted a question only to find out my post was taken down because I just signed up. So left the group. My question was about crsc. How can that group make you wait to get answers to crsc when CRSC its self is confusing to begin with.
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Because it's to give someone time for some due diligence, 95% of one's questions are already answered there, to include a slideshow that explains CRSC "Barney Style". Three (3) days is NOT much to ask someone to go through the posts and resources in the group.
 
RetiredColonel-MikeT said:
Because it's to give someone time for some due diligence, 95% of one's questions are already answered there, to include a slideshow that explains CRSC "Barney Style". Three (3) days is NOT much to ask someone to go through the posts and resources in the group.y
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Obviously if i posted something i still had questions I even posted on here still no help, i do know one thing when if ever i get help/answers i wont be like that group page or you. I’ll ask further questions and help the best i can because truthfully im not getting on here or anywhere. By the way the post on the group page doesn’t tell you who to contact when dfas says they Never received any of my retirement paper work to establish my retirement account.
 
Bgere said:
Obviously if i posted something i still had questions I even posted on here still no help, i do know one thing when if ever i get help/answers i wont be like that group page or you. I’ll ask further questions and help the best i can because truthfully im not getting on here or anywhere. By the way the post on the group page doesn’t tell you who to contact when dfas says they Never received any of my retirement paper work to establish my retirement account.
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Well I apologize you didn't get an answer for your original question, I spent 3 days in the hospital over the weekend thanks to kidney stones and haven't caught up yet. I went and looked at it, but you never stated what branch you were in, so I'll wing it and presume you were Army. The 2656 is actually a DD Form, not DA form, so that also tipped things into the Army side. Start with your local RSO would be my best guess, if not them, then HRC - Contact Your RSO | Soldier for Life <--- link for the RSO locator.
 
Yes (army)I did they keep telling go to each other and none of them have answers dfas is the only one thats giving me answers.

Main question for crsc for the documents to show its combat related. Obviously give my medical board findings and retirement orders showing a yes in this

Disability is based on injury or disease received in LOD as a direct result of Armed Conflict or caused by an


instrumentality of war and incurred in the LOD during a war period as defined by law: YES


Member of an armed force on 24 Sep 75: NO


Disability resulted from a combat related injury as defined in 26 USC 104: YES

Should i send them all of my c&p exams for the two conditions the ARMY found me unfit for ?

Also my separation paper has 6 years in eligible retirement but the retirement orders has disability retirement 2yrs 5 months and 17 days should i ask to get that changed to reflect the 6 years ?

I’m also 100 u/i va rating. Does CRSC use the va rating math to find the percentage for CRSC?


I’m making a packet for the CRSC to keep me busy and I’ll have everything when the time comes to file it. Yes i know i need the retirement account up and running before hand.
 
Just so you know, PEB findings have no bearing on CRSC, just whether or not your Ch 61 pay is non-taxable. Of course, it ends up being completely offset by the VA so there's that. The other benefit PEB findings have is for Civil Service employment and the ability to not only get CRSC but also buy into FERS, usually it's one or the other. Below is my standard reference when it comes to making the causal relationship between condition(s) and combat-related event(s). You're also looking at each of your VA conditions, not just the ones the Army found you unfitting. Esp if you have any conditions that would fall under the VA Presumptive list (attached below) for burn pit exposures. As for the eligible retirement years, the key is how many years did you actually do? If you were reserve component, all that time gets condensed into an active duty equivalent. I did 33+ years, which condensed down to 15+.
 

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As for your retirement acct, since you're getting no where on the Army side, I would talk to your Congressman and have them earn some of that money you get taxed for, make them earn their keep.
 
So the va diagnosised me with asthma due to the burn pit stuff. Show can help me with filing for CRSC ive requested my c file from the va. I was an (IA) IN AFGHANISTAN individual agumentee yes i misplelled the last word. What about a base attack that made national news. Could that help. I don’t haveNCOERS so does that mean i could be f%^&ed when it comes to CRSC
 
Bgere said:
So the va diagnosised me with asthma due to the burn pit stuff. Show can help me with filing for CRSC ive requested my c file from the va. I was an (IA) IN AFGHANISTAN individual agumentee yes i misplelled the last word. What about a base attack that made national news. Could that help. I don’t haveNCOERS so does that mean i could be f%^&ed when it comes to CRSC
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You probably won't need much to max out for your length of service tbh. I came up with $5,489.25 as your high avg 36, when you multiply that by 2.5% I get $137.23 per month. But I'm not DFAS so take my numbers with a grain of salt, although people have told me I'm usually pretty close. If your asthma is rated 10% then you'll be maxed out. Kinda how I was, all I needed to max out was 10% for tinnitus and even then I did not get the full amount for that rating. Sorry, wish I had better news for you thank this. Here's a quick example of what your Page 2 should look like
 

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my va rating’s

10% rating for left lower extremity sciatic radiculopathy​

Effective date: April 15, 2025

10% rating for right lower extremity sciatic radiculopathy​

Effective date: April 15, 2025

40% rating for lumbar L4-5 disc protrusion and Strain L/S spine with intervertebral disc syndrome (IVDS)​

Effective date: April 15, 2025

10% rating for allergic rhinitis and epistaxis​

Effective date: November 20, 2023

20% rating for decreased visual acuity in right eye and visual field defect in both eyes​

Effective date: October 30, 2019

70% rating for posttraumatic stress disorder with traumatic brain injury​

Effective date: October 28, 2019

10% rating for migraine headaches​

Effective date: November 30, 2015

50% rating for sleep apnea with asthma​

Effective date: November 30, 2015

0% rating for hearing loss, right ear​

Effective date: January 19, 2011

10% rating for tinnitus​

Effective date: January 19, 2011


I don’t if i shared this as well i have this in my retirement orders

Disability is based on injury or disease received in LOD as a direct result of Armed Conflict or caused by an


instrumentality of war and incurred in the LOD during a war period as defined by law: YES


Member of an armed force on 24 Sep 75: NO


Disability resulted from a combat related injury as defined in 26 USC 104: YES

Retirement type and allotment code: Permanent/ 12


Component: ARNGUS


Authority: AR 635-40


Statute authorizing retirement: 1204


Other eligible laws: Not Applicable


Disability retirement: 2 Years, 5 Months, 17 Days


Basic Pay: 10 Years, 10 Months, 19 Days

but my other paper work has 6 years of eligible retirement.


would it change anything.also i’m actually getting answers from dfas faster. i have a call into G-1 to help with my paperwork.
 
also the va diagnosed me with asthma through the pac act. i had a phone interview in the summer of 2025.

could i use
Disability is based on injury or disease received in LOD as a direct result of Armed Conflict or caused by an


instrumentality of war and incurred in the LOD during a war period as defined by law: YES

and Disability resulted from a combat related injury as defined in 26 USC 104: YES

for ptsd and my back condition?
 
Also could I use the may 19th 2010 base attack at badgram airbase as a supporting document for CRSC for ptsd it made national news I believe
 
You can get 60% with virtually no effort: 50% for the sleep apnea w/asthma, 10% for tinnitus and 10% for allergic rhinitis. The retirement order’s section you are referring to only pertains to Federal and State taxes, NOT CRSC. As for the base attack, you can try but as I posted earlier, you need proof of enemy engagement. Your six years only refers to years that qualify for a reserve retirement, take all of your points from your Retirement Points Statement and divide by 360 to get your equivalent active duty time.

And as I mentioned above, you only need to be approved for 10% CRSC, spinning your wheels for the PTSD/TBI will gain you nothing other than being frustrated and wasting time. Save yourself some undue stress and focus on the easy wins :)
 
so the CRSC amount will go up a little then? so would i need to just turn in the va rating page when my retirement account is actually up and running.
 
i’ve been reading that CRSC goes off of the va compensation payment chart is that correct ?
 
Bgere said:
i’ve been reading that CRSC goes off of the va compensation payment chart is that correct ?
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I can answer that for you. It does but it also goes off your TIS. You have to figure out what you would get for the years you have. That formula is 2.5% or 2% (if in BRS) of your high 3 for every good year. So like with a traditional retirement it’s 50% at 20, 75% at 30.

You are limited to whichever amount is lower. Your TIS retirement or the VA pay tables.
 
i have 10 years 10 months i was medically retired rank Spc E-4 40 percent dod rating 100 percent va

and possibly 60 percent CRSC

do you neee any more info to give me an estimate on CrSc payment
 
Bgere said:
i have 10 years 10 months i was medically retired rank Spc E-4 40 percent dod rating 100 percent va

and possibly 60 percent CRSC

do you neee any more info to give me an estimate on CrSc payment
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You would need to provide the amount on your RAS that is on mypay. I saw you don’t have a retirement account setup so you probably can’t get that number.

With that number you can get an accurate high 3 number. If you remember or know what your average highest 36 months of base pay was we can figure it out. Your average high 3 is usually the last 3 years of someone’s time in. But in cases where reductions in rank have occurred it will not be the last 3 years. Not saying that is your case.. just covering the bases.
 
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