Should be soon, may miss this month if there is no pay statement for the first. 92 days is pretty dang good. I feel bad and have concerns for the Navy. Someone to put the Navy CRSC board on their congressional representatives radar.
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Big news on the statute of limitations and CRSC (Combat-Related Special Compensation) claims.
In June 2025, the U.S. Supreme Court decided Soto v. United States, a landmark case that extended the retroactive period for veterans who applied for CRSC. This ruling means that some applicants may now be eligible for additional retroactive benefits that were previously time-barred.
In June 2025, the U.S. Supreme Court decided Soto v. United States, a landmark case that extended the retroactive period for veterans who applied for CRSC. This ruling means that some applicants may now be eligible for additional retroactive benefits that were previously time-barred.
I am wondering about your statement regarding your payment on July 30th.
I was granted CRSC after a long journey which ended with my discharge being changed from medical to Retirement.
I was approved for CRSC with effective date of October 2025. Received my first payment February 1st and then received another Payment of a roughly $2700 in mid February with the statement CRSC Retro. My CRSC is roughly a little shy of $900 after all the offsets and SBP. So obviously with a retirement going back to 2012 I am concerned about the low amount and I am wondering if you could maybe clarify what you mean for those payments on July 30, 2025
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What was the date you filed your claim for CRSC and also when did you get your approval for your retroactive retirement even though you were retroactive retired if you did not file for CRSC until after 20 August 2025 you may have received exactly what you’re supposed to based on DOD interring guidance.
My approval for retirement by ABCMR was last March but I wasnt "officially" retired until I went to the Guard building in May. My DFAS account was not even established until July.
I filed for CRSC roughly the same time as my retirement but because the retirement account had not been reflected correctly yet in the system, it was denied. I then had to file a reconsideration and the form is dated August 1st. I may not be correct on this but I do not believe the August timeframe should apply to Retro retirements. From my understanding that was more geared towards the Soto act which the Retirement corrections would not even apply to. I mean you certainly cant fault me because the retirement they mange to screw up the first time hadn't been corrected in time.
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Check your emails as you should have gotten a response from HRC stating they received it. If the received date is prior to 20 August, then they screwed up. You can PM me and I'll talk to HRC on your behalf. I had another one a week or two ago that was similar in nature, and HRC expedited it; however, their claim was received by HRC PRIOR to 20 August.
I agree that it "shouldn't" apply to retro retirements; however, that decision is above this guy's pay grade. I'll see if I can get clarity from my friends at HRC to see how they're interpreting it re: retro retirements.
Nope. The email says September 09/09 the "Request for Reconsideration 12U is signed with the date 08/01" I also have an email for the one I submitted in may that was denied because the retirement account didn't exist yet which was the whole reason I had to submit the request for reconsideration.
I got an email response from DFAS and it’s like you said, “Audits complete , you get what you get”.
When i started this journey it was about righting the wrong of my discharge. I was not even aware of the CRSC and assumed everything would be offset by my VA but it was the principle of ir. I’m extremely grateful for what I have. I will continue to pursue it but I’m not going to let it consume me. The Army has never had the ability to do the right thing so I’m really not surprised.
My next step is I will file a request for reconsideration to Army HRC for the effective date due to the initial denial in May because I was not listed in the system as retired. I’m not optimistic. If that fails then I’ll look at legal options. I’ll update with anything significant and I wish everyone love and success in their journeys.
When i started this journey it was about righting the wrong of my discharge. I was not even aware of the CRSC and assumed everything would be offset by my VA but it was the principle of ir. I’m extremely grateful for what I have. I will continue to pursue it but I’m not going to let it consume me. The Army has never had the ability to do the right thing so I’m really not surprised.
My next step is I will file a request for reconsideration to Army HRC for the effective date due to the initial denial in May because I was not listed in the system as retired. I’m not optimistic. If that fails then I’ll look at legal options. I’ll update with anything significant and I wish everyone love and success in their journeys.
Think I’m going to do a request for reconsideration regarding the effective date and see where it goes from there.
Thing is that my correction is not based on a simple ABCMR. It actually went to federal court so it was me vs ABCMR. The judge has agreed to leave my case open until “all benefits have been restored “ so I’m hoping that this would some how fall under that.
Worst part about the whole thing is that when they restored my retirement account I had a debt for SBP..so it’s like you can hit me for the debt for the SBP but not actually pay me the backpay it’s connected to.. like how shameful
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Good luck, hopefully they'll grant it, but like you said, "not holding my breath"
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The problem is that it can be signed at anytime, it's when the service states they've received it. What's the date you emailed it?
Maybe you could help me at least start in the right direction.Good luck, hopefully they'll grant it, but like you said, "not holding my breath"
What determines the date of your backpay? Is it the CRSC effective date on your CRSC letter or is there something DFAS does ever pays you for that back pay.
If DfAS can only go by that date then HRC is where I need to start
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It's HRC when they receive the COMPLETED claim, you can try the argument that DFAS had not set up your retiree account; however, it clearly states on the CRSC page for HRC (<-- LINK) that one is entitled to retiree pay that is being offset by the VA. The date you signed the CRSC Form 12e is not an accurate measuring stick as there are any number of reasons the service did not receive it, to include: attachments too big, USPS dropped the ball (or FedEx, UPS, et al), fax sent to the wrong number, etc. That's why I was asking if you had the email you sent to HRC, or a fax confirmation letter might help with your argument that you shouldn't be penalized for them not "receiving" it until 09 September.
The request for reconsideration definitely was not sent before the cutoff date of 08/20. I had submitted the initial claim by mail in May and denied because I was not reflected properly as retired in the system.
I faxed a document explaining this was due to an ABCMR and included the documents. I then called a week or so later and spoke with a lady, told them about the confusion and she told me it was still going through the process and it could take 90 days. I assumed my fax clarified it. I was obviously not clear on the process
However I called back when the 90 day mark hit and that’s when another individual said the initial decision was the last note in my record and I needed to file a request for reconsideration. Which I did and that’s how we are here.essentially by not calling all the time, trying to be patient, and doing the right thing actually just bit me in the ass.
My request for reconsideration is nothing more than my initial claim. I contacted the non profit attorneys who represented me an we will see what they say. From what I have been told by someone who is a bit more fluent in legalese than me, and they think the fact it states the “court grants full relief “ and we were seeking “
Correction of records to reflect retirement as of discharge and all Entitlement to disability retirement pay and benefits” that it gives me a solid argument.
Been fighting this for 14 years and thought I was about to close the final part out. Im grateful I’ve gotten here so bittersweet I guess
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I went back and looked through my emails and phone conversations.
I had submitted the request for reconsideration a second time in August which is why the August first day on the documents.
Because of the size of the files they had only received 2 of 3. I submitted the third and let them know if they had any issues with it to let me know. Nothing. I called three weeks later to verify and that is when the lady said the initial claim in May is all that’s on record. So I was at the beach at the time and resubmitted using e-fax and sent the second request for reconsideration which is why the date was August 1st
I also went through my phone records and three contacts with crsc. Two 25 minute conversations and an 8 minute
I called the HRC desk today and the lady was kind enough to put in a request for CRSC to contact me and a gentleman called me not long after.
I have to say it was the first time I have been optimistic in a long time. I can say that regardless of my outcome, I have not had one bad interaction in this whole process with either the HRC or anyone else involved. its always quick to get through and the people are always extremely helpful.
I went from being doom and gloom to researching possibly being a CRSC ambassador. Regardless of where I land, Im fortunate to be in the place I am at and if I can help others then so be it.
I have to say it was the first time I have been optimistic in a long time. I can say that regardless of my outcome, I have not had one bad interaction in this whole process with either the HRC or anyone else involved. its always quick to get through and the people are always extremely helpful.
I went from being doom and gloom to researching possibly being a CRSC ambassador. Regardless of where I land, Im fortunate to be in the place I am at and if I can help others then so be it.
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Glad to hear you've gotten the support needed. The Army is the only service that actually has an Ambassador program and allegedly there's around 2-300 of us out there. Tbh, I know 3-5, and I'm one of them, who are actually active out of the bunch. HRC was working on vetting their list, which I've offered to help with, but I do not know if it went anywhere. If you haven't done so already, HRC's page for the Ambassador program can be found here ---> https://www.hrc.army.mil/content/CRSC Ambassador Corner and I'm more than willing to help folks out learn the ropes. First and foremost would be to join my FB group to really get a good idea of the variety of nuances associated with CRSC.
Well submitted. I will definitly likely be reaching out to you once I can get the ball rolling.
I dont have facebook but I can get on creating some sort of account for it. I know you all are overwhelmed and as someone who has been through both the ABCMR process as well the CRSC then the least I can do is try to use my old crusty mind to help others