Help Calculate CRSC?

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R.Smitty

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I received my approval letter today! Not sure what happens next but there was no clear calculations on the letter

Medically retired E6 with 17 years and 8 months

VA @ 80% with dependent
DOD@ 70% with dependent
CRSC Approval today @70%
 
This is @RonG's specialty.
 
Hello,

Precise info is needed to offer an accurate computation; please furnish it in one post. If one is just guessing at the info, this process has no value.

See the following for info needed. I would be happy to provide an estimate.

The information associated with all of the five numbered items below is needed. Incomplete answers will preclude an accurate estimate. Each numbered item below is a factor in the CRSC calculation.

1. High three base pay average for retirement or your current DoD disability retirement gross found on page one of the DFAS RAS. Please indicate whether you are providing the high three average or the retirement gross found on the DFAS RAS. The high-36 method is the average of the highest 36 months of basic pay divided by 36. This is generally the last 3 years of service and is sometimes called high-3. EXAMPLE: High three average $3333 (or alternative: Gross Retired Pay on DFAS RAS $xxxx.xx)

2. DoD disability retirement percentage. EXAMPLE: 50% DoD (this is absolutely necessary)

3. Years and months of active duty EXAMPLE: 11 years and 3 months
Note: The creditable years of service (active duty equivalent) for a reserve calculation is determined by the sum of accumulated reserve points divided by 360.

4. VA compensation percentage and amount plus identify dependents by category and number EXAMPLE: 60% VA Compensation, $1600, Spouse and 6 children under 18

5. Approved or expected combat related disability percentage (application was required). EXAMPLE: 70% CRSC

Please provide ALL the info above and a computation will be provided.
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An Example of a Perfect Reply:

1. Gross retired pay shown on DFAS = $3650.00

2. DOD Disability Retirement Percentage= 100% which would be 75%

3. Active duty or active duty equivalent, Reserve Calculation= 2 years 00 months 21 days

4. VA rating= 100% $3620.00 Veteran and 2 children under 18

5. Approved CRSC 100%

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Ron
 
RonG said:
An Example of a Perfect Reply:

1. Gross retired pay shown on DFAS = $2,664.00

2. DOD Disability Retirement Percentage= 70%

3. Active duty or active duty equivalent, Reserve Calculation= 17 years, 8 months

4. VA rating= 80% $1722.69 Veteran and 1 child under 18

5. Approved CRSC: 70%

I erased the numbers you used for examples and filled in the blanks and boldened them. Thank you so much in advance!
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Great!

1. Gross retired pay shown on DFAS = $2,664.00

2. DOD Disability Retirement Percentage= 70%

3. Active duty or active duty equivalent, Reserve Calculation= 17 years, 8 months

4. VA rating= 80% $1722.69 Veteran and 1 child under 18

5. Approved CRSC: 70%
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Estimate using your info:
A. 2664/0.70 = ~3806 high three
B. 17.667 yrs x 0.025 = 44.17%
C. 3806 x 0.4417 = 1681 longevity portion of retirement pay
D. 2664 gross Ret Pay minus ~1723 VA = 941 residual retired pay
E. 70% CRSC 1 child u/18 = $1,482.71
F. Item E is less than item c = ~1483
G. 1483 CRSC minus 941 residual Ret Pay =542 CRSC
H. EACH MONTH: 1723 VA + 941 residual retired pay + 542 CRSC = 3206

Ron
 
RonG said:
Great!

1. Gross retired pay shown on DFAS = $2,664.00

2. DOD Disability Retirement Percentage= 70%

3. Active duty or active duty equivalent, Reserve Calculation= 17 years, 8 months

4. VA rating= 80% $1722.69 Veteran and 1 child under 18

5. Approved CRSC: 70%
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Estimate using your info:
A. 2664/0.70 = ~3806 high three
B. 17.667 yrs x 0.025 = 44.17%
C. 3806 x 0.4417 = 1681 longevity portion of retirement pay
D. 2664 gross Ret Pay minus ~1723 VA = 941 residual retired pay
E. 70% CRSC 1 child u/18 = $1,482.71
F. Item E is less than item c = ~1483
G. 1483 CRSC minus 941 residual Ret Pay =542 CRSC
H. EACH MONTH: 1723 VA + 941 residual retired pay + 542 CRSC = 3206

Ron
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Wonderful Ron! Thank you so much! That’s quite a bit more than I imagined. I thought it would be an extra $50-100 a month
 
You are welcome; I am glad we could help.

Ron
 
R.Smitty said:
Thank you, any help will do. I know I have to wait a month or more to see anything, The wording to CRSC in the explanation requires 2 Masters degrees to understand lol
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I agree that CRSC is complicated. Hopefully veterans service organizations will lobby Congress to make CRSC clear. Many Vets who are not entitled get upset when they get their rejection letters. Additionally some Vets get denied that ought to be entitled.
 
Hey Ron,

I just received my approval letter for crsc today, and I'm hoping you can help me with the crsc calculation whole dfas works out their calculations for compensation.

Thank you so much for your time and effort!

-Daniel

Reply Information:

1. Gross retired pay shown on DFAS = 1646.00

2. DOD Disability Retirement Percentage= 50%

3. Active duty or active duty equivalent, Reserve Calculation= 12 years, 9 months, 21 days

4. VA rating= 100%, 3664.19: Veteran, Spouse, and 4 children under 18

5. Approved CRSC: 70%
 
Vaeric333 said:
Hey Ron,

I just received my approval letter for crsc today, and I'm hoping you can help me with the crsc calculation whole dfas works out their calculations for compensation.

Thank you so much for your time and effort!

-Daniel

Reply Information:

1. Gross retired pay shown on DFAS = 1646.00

2. DOD Disability Retirement Percentage= 50%

3. Active duty or active duty equivalent, Reserve Calculation= 12 years, 9 months, 21 days

4. VA rating= 100%, 3664.19: Veteran, Spouse, and 4 children under 18

5. Approved CRSC: 70%
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Hello,

Estimate based on your info.

a. 1646/0.50 = 3292 high three

b. Retired pay reduced to zero by amount of VA comp

c. 12.75 AD years (equivalent) x 0.025 = 31.88% longevity percentage

d. 3292 x 0.3188 = 1049.49 longevity portion of retired pay

e. CRSC @ 70%: CRSC @ 70% with spouse and 4 children u/18 = $1,636.17 + 3 @ 60 = 1816.17

f. The payable amount of CRSC in your case is the longevity portion of retired pay = 1049.49

Ron
Note: You provided the active duty equivalent. It is also shown on your retirement orders.
 
RonG said:
Hello,

Estimate based on your info.

a. 1646/0.50 = 3292 high three

b. Retired pay reduced to zero by amount of VA comp

c. 12.75 AD years (equivalent) x 0.025 = 31.88% longevity percentage

d. 3292 x 0.3188 = 1049.49 longevity portion of retired pay

e. CRSC @ 70%: CRSC @ 70% with spouse and 4 children u/18 = $1,636.17 + 3 @ 60 = 1816.17

f. The payable amount of CRSC in your case is the longevity portion of retired pay = 1049.49

Ron
Note: You provided the active duty equivalent. It is also shown on your retirement orders.
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Thank you Ron! I greatly appreciate you
 
Glad we could help.

Take care,
Ron
 
Would somebody please verify if this is correct? I tried doing it myself but I am confused and I'm pretty sure i'm getting this completely wrong. Thanks!!

1. Gross retired pay shown on DFAS = $1,722.00

2. DOD Disability Retirement Percentage= 60%

3. Active duty or active duty equivalent, Reserve Calculation= 9 years, 11 months

4. VA rating= 100% $3,492.05 Veteran, Spouse and 2 children under 18

5. Approved CRSC: 70%
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Estimate using your info:
A. 1,722/0.70 = ~2870 high three
B. 9.9 yrs x 0.025 = 24.75%
C. 2870 x 0.2475 = 710.325 longevity portion of retirement pay
D. 1722 gross Ret Pay minus ~3492.05 VA = 0 residual retired pay
E. 70% CRSC 2 child u/18 = $1,696.17
F. Item E is NOT less than item c = ~0
G. 1,696.17 CRSC minus 0 residual Ret Pay =1,696.17 CRSC
H. EACH MONTH: 3492.05 VA + 0 residual retired pay + 1,696.17 CRSC = 5,188.2
 
Hello Jevonas01,

You provided this information:

1. Gross retired pay shown on DFAS = $1,722.00

2. DOD Disability Retirement Percentage= 60%

3. Active duty or active duty equivalent, Reserve Calculation= 9 years, 11 months

4. VA rating= 100% $3,492.05 Veteran, Spouse and 2 children under 18

5. Approved CRSC: 70%
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You also provided this estimate and asked if it is correct:
Estimate using your info:
A. 1,722/0.70 = ~2870 high three
B. 9.9 yrs x 0.025 = 24.75%
C. 2870 x 0.2475 = 710.325 longevity portion of retirement pay
D. 1722 gross Ret Pay minus ~3492.05 VA = 0 residual retired pay
E. 70% CRSC 2 child u/18 = $1,696.17
F. Item E is NOT less than item c = ~0
G. 1,696.17 CRSC minus 0 residual Ret Pay =1,696.17 CRSC
H. EACH MONTH: 3492.05 VA + 0 residual retired pay + 1,696.17 CRSC = 5,188.2

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This is my computation [RonG's]:

1. 1722/0.60 = 2870 Comment: your computation shows 70%, but it correctly shows high three of 2870
2. 9.92 yrs AD x 0.025 = 24.8% longevity multiplier (minor rounding difference)
3. 2870 x 0.248 = 711.76 due to minor rounding...longevity portion of retirement
4. All retired pay is waived due to the amount of VA comp
5. CRSC @ 70% spouse & 2 children under 18 = 1,636.17 + 60 = 1696.17
6. CRSC cannot exceed the longevity portion of retired pay which is: 711.76

7. You will receive:
--711.76 in CRSC each month
plus
--$3,492.05 100% Veteran, Spouse and 2 children under 18

Ron
 
RonG said:
Hello Jevonas01,

You provided this information:

1. Gross retired pay shown on DFAS = $1,722.00

2. DOD Disability Retirement Percentage= 60%

3. Active duty or active duty equivalent, Reserve Calculation= 9 years, 11 months

4. VA rating= 100% $3,492.05 Veteran, Spouse and 2 children under 18

5. Approved CRSC: 70%
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You also provided this estimate and asked if it is correct:
Estimate using your info:
A. 1,722/0.70 = ~2870 high three
B. 9.9 yrs x 0.025 = 24.75%
C. 2870 x 0.2475 = 710.325 longevity portion of retirement pay
D. 1722 gross Ret Pay minus ~3492.05 VA = 0 residual retired pay
E. 70% CRSC 2 child u/18 = $1,696.17
F. Item E is NOT less than item c = ~0
G. 1,696.17 CRSC minus 0 residual Ret Pay =1,696.17 CRSC
H. EACH MONTH: 3492.05 VA + 0 residual retired pay + 1,696.17 CRSC = 5,188.2

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This is my computation [RonG's]:

1. 1722/0.60 = 2870 Comment: your computation shows 70%, but it correctly shows high three of 2870
2. 9.92 yrs AD x 0.025 = 24.8% longevity multiplier (minor rounding difference)
3. 2870 x 0.248 = 711.76 due to minor rounding...longevity portion of retirement
4. All retired pay is waived due to the amount of VA comp
5. CRSC @ 70% spouse & 2 children under 18 = 1,636.17 + 60 = 1696.17
6. CRSC cannot exceed the longevity portion of retired pay which is: 711.76

7. You will receive:
--711.76 in CRSC each month
plus
--$3,492.05 100% Veteran, Spouse and 2 children under 18

Ron
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Thank you Ron!
 
Medical Retired with VA 100% with 2 kids both under 18 $4,118 a month
Army was 75%
CRSC is a 100% don't know what the pay is for 14 years can you give a idea of what it will be?
 
grantboy4 said:
Medical Retired with VA 100% with 2 kids both under 18 $4,118 a month
Army was 75%
CRSC is a 100% don't know what the pay is for 14 years can you give a idea of what it will be?
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Hello @grantboy4 ,

Yes, that can be done here.

Needed within one reply:
1.--Average high three for basic pay (total of the highest 36 months of pay divided by 36) As an alternative (and better) cite the gross retired pay on the most recent DFAS RAS. Indicate which you are furnishing.
2.--DoD disability percentage
3. --Active duty years and months (or active duty equivalent for RC members)
4. --VA compensation
percentage;
amount;
dependents by category;
and ages of dependent children.
Also provide information pertaining to any SMCs you receive.
5.--Projected or approved CRSC percentage by your service.
6.--Whether you qualify for another type retirement and whether you transitioned to the blended retirement system
7.--Did you receive a REDUX/CSB payment?
8.--Did you accept the Blended Retirement program option?

Ron
 
RonG said:
Hello @grantboy4 ,

Yes, that can be done here.

Needed within one reply:
1.--Average high three for basic pay (total of the highest 36 months of pay divided by 36) As an alternative (and better) cite the gross retired pay on the most recent DFAS RAS. Indicate which you are furnishing.
2.--DoD disability percentage
3. --Active duty years and months (or active duty equivalent for RC members)
4. --VA compensation
percentage;
amount;
dependents by category;
and ages of dependent children.
Also provide information pertaining to any SMCs you receive.
5.--Projected or approved CRSC percentage by your service.
6.--Whether you qualify for another type retirement and whether you transitioned to the blended retirement system
7.--Did you receive a REDUX/CSB payment?
8.--Did you accept the Blended Retirement program option?

Ron
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14 years 2 months of service as a SSG E6
VA 100%
DOD 75%
CRSC 100%

no repayment
no blended retirement program
 
grantboy4 said:
14 years 2 months of service as a SSG E6
VA 100%
DOD 75%
CRSC 100%

no repayment
no blended retirement program
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Hello @grantboy4 ,

Unfortunately, your reply includes little of what I outlined that is needed to do an accurate computation.

Your CRSC will will be the lesser of
--The amount for 100% and applicable dependents found in the VA compensation tables. See LINK <----
or
---The longevity portion of your retired pay, which would be 14.17 x 2.5% x average high three base pay = longevity amount The result will likely be your CRSC.
Pure guess: 35.43% x 4185 = $1483 This is imprecise due to a lack of information.

If I receive the following info (previously requested) I can provide a more precise answer:

Needed within one reply:
1.--Average high three for basic pay (total of the highest 36 months of pay divided by 36) As an alternative (and better) cite the gross retired pay on the most recent DFAS RAS. Indicate which you are furnishing.
2.--DoD disability percentage
3. --Active duty years and months (or active duty equivalent for RC members)
4. --VA compensation
percentage;
amount;
dependents by category;
and ages of dependent children.
Also provide information pertaining to any SMCs you receive.
5.--Projected or approved CRSC percentage by your service.
6.--Whether you qualify for another type retirement and whether you transitioned to the blended retirement system
7.--Did you receive a REDUX/CSB payment?
8.--Did you accept the Blended Retirement program option?

Ron
 
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