HRC Army Current Timeline and CRSC estimate

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Ron
Hello all, just checked iPERMS and got my approval. 50% effective Jun 12. Will I get back pay from this date? Will DFAS automatically establish this or do I need to initiate it?
 

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Hello all, just checked iPERMS and got my approval. 50% effective Jun 12. Will I get back pay from this date? Will DFAS automatically establish this or do I need to initiate it?
Yes you will but it will take DFAS some time to calculate it. Also, when did you apply? My wife's application was received at the end of December so just wondering.
 
Yes you will but it will take DFAS some time to calculate it. Also, when did you apply? My wife's application was received at the end of December so just wondering.
So I should see a regular payment at the end of Feb? My application was received 10 Nov.
 
So I should see a regular payment at the end of Feb? My application was received 10 Nov.
Should be March 1 or April 1. However, you will get the rest via backpay after DFAS finishes with their calculations. My wife apply for sinusitis but has OSA diagnosis and asthma too but they weren't finished with her VA claims. So she started with one condition and will have to apply to have the others added after she is approved for her first CRSC claim.
 
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@RonG
DFAS reached out and stated first payment would be 1 March, it's less than what was estimated at $322 and back pay would occur 60-90 days after.
Were my numbers off on the amount or is a -/+ for a few dollars normal?
Thanks
 
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@RonG
DFAS reached out and stated first payment would be 1 March, it's less than what was estimated at $322 and back pay would occur 60-90 days after.
Were my numbers off on the amount or is a -/+ for a few dollars normal?
Thanks
Ron's numbers were only $4 off so its probably the calculate of longevity earned since its such small difference.
 
Ron's numbers were only $4 off so its probably the calculate of longevity earned since its such small difference.
Thanks Provis and Ron you all were pretty much spot on with amount and payment date.
 
Ron's numbers were only $4 off so its probably the calculate of longevity earned since its such small difference.
I agree and I am often surprised if our estimates are precisely the same as the eventual DFAS computation.

Why?

Because DFAS had the official documents that support the computation. "We" have the comments of the retired service member and some of the terms are confusing to them.

Most common errors on the part of the person wanting an estimate:
--Wrong high three or wrong gross retired pay
--Incorrect active duty equivalent (most common)
--Confusion whether they are in the blended retirement program

I can make errors myself...usually from transferring data from my phone calculator to the text reply. Does not happen often.

Since the estimate was only a few dollars off, I congratulate the retiree for providing good info for the estimate.

Regards,
Ron
 
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@RonG
DFAS reached out and stated first payment would be 1 March, it's less than what was estimated at $322 and back pay would occur 60-90 days after.
Were my numbers off on the amount or is a -/+ for a few dollars normal?
Thanks
Ron G. made a great comment offline. I was mistaken on the amount since your current Gross Pay is at 70% DOD. I had a brain fart. It would be your high 3 which is $1,721.43 x longevity which is 17.5% if that half year rounds up to 7 years. So $301.25 is the max amount for CRSC since that is your earned regular pension. Sorry for giving you incorrect information at the beginning!
So for people who med board with less time in service we are going to get less retirement. That’s what this calculation is for? So if I was in for 4 yrs as an E4 I’m assuming avg base pay was 2200. What would that be with 100%crsc
 
So for people who med board with less time in service we are going to get less retirement. That’s what this calculation is for? So if I was in for 4 yrs as an E4 I’m assuming avg base pay was 2200. What would that be with 100%crsc
The CRSC entitlement for CH 61 disability retirees is the lesser (lower amount)
OF
—longevity portion of retired pay
OR
—the amount found in the VA compensation tables for the CRSC percentage approved

Your CRSC will likely involve:
a. 4 yrs AD x 2.5% = 10% longevity multiplier Note: 2% is used for blended retirement system
b. 2200 (assumed) x 10% = $220 longevity portion of retired pay and likely CRSC using your imprecise data

If you want a more precise estimate, please provide ALL the info requested at
Information Necessary --Computing Combat Related Special Compensation for CH 61 Disability Retirees <—-link

Ron
 
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The CRSC entitlement for CH 61 disability retirees is the lesser (lower amount)
OF
—longevity portion of retired pay
OR
—the amount found in the VA compensation tables for tge CRSC percentage approved

Your CRSC will likely involve:
a. 4 yrs AD x 2.5% = 10% longevity multiplier Note: 2% is used for blended retirement system
b. 2200 (assumed) x 10% = $220 longevity portion of retired pay and likely CRSC using your imprecise data

If you want a more precise estimate, please provide ALL the info requested at
Information Necessary --Computing Combat Related Special Compensation for CH 61 Disability Retirees <—-link

Ron
Thank you and yes this is just imprecise data as I’m in the beginning stage of chapter reviews. I got a dav rep who is willing to help me after I’ve told them what happened while I was in service. I am totally wrong about my previous calculations regarding MEB retirement. I thought it was a way higher amount. But I understand why they use that type of calculation. So for us who get discharge upgraded to medical retirement we can benefit from (CRSC if we Qualify which seems like a very small amount unless we served 20+yrs) and tricare which I believe is a big benefit for those of us with spouses and children. There’s no way to get anything higher than the current amount you are calculating unless one qualified for CRDP right?
 
Thank you and yes this is just imprecise data as I’m in the beginning stage of chapter reviews. I got a dav rep who is willing to help me after I’ve told them what happened while I was in service. I am totally wrong about my previous calculations regarding MEB retirement. I thought it was a way higher amount. But I understand why they use that type of calculation. So for us who get discharge upgraded to medical retirement we can benefit from (CRSC if we Qualify which seems like a very small amount unless we served 20+yrs) and tricare which I believe is a big benefit for those of us with spouses and children. There’s no way to get anything higher than the current amount you are calculating unless one qualified for CRDP right?
If I’m not mistaken, the CRDP payment would be the same or really close. The only difference is it’s taxed, CRDP is normally automatic if you qualify, and the minimum VA qualified rating is 50% vs 10% for CRSC.
 
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Thank you and yes this is just imprecise data as I’m in the beginning stage of chapter reviews. I got a dav rep who is willing to help me after I’ve told them what happened while I was in service. I am totally wrong about my previous calculations regarding MEB retirement. I thought it was a way higher amount. But I understand why they use that type of calculation. So for us who get discharge upgraded to medical retirement we can benefit from (CRSC if we Qualify which seems like a very small amount unless we served 20+yrs) and tricare which I believe is a big benefit for those of us with spouses and children. There’s no way to get anything higher than the current amount you are calculating unless one qualified for CRDP right?
Hello,

Yes, CRDP would pay more than what we discussed, but you would have to have 20 Good Years, meet the age requirement, and of course have a VA rating of at least 50%. The “more” discussed in the preceding sentence would increase the longevity amount for CRSC consideration too.

Ron
 
Long time lurker, First time posting.

Was medically retired in July of 2011 with 6.5 years of service due to injuries incurred during two Iraq tours. I was looking to see what HRC Army's current timeline is looking like as far as getting these packets processed through the holiday season and how much of a damper that puts on the timelines of approval or denial? Not only the aforementioned, but I would like to see if I could get an estimate of monthly entitlement based off the following information. Any input is appreciated.

Thank you.

My CRSC timeline as of now(will edit as time progresses)

Packet mailed by USPS: 23 NOV 2022
Recieved by HRC: 28 NOV 2022
Confirmation of receipt letter: 30 NOV 2022
Approved or Denied: Approved 80%
Approval of CRSC: 23 FEB 2023
First Payment of CRSC: TBD
Retroactive Pay recieved: TBD

Now for the meat and potatoes:

1. Gross Pay: $1,205
1a. Yes, I did recieve a DoD disability retirement
2. DoD percentage: 70%
3. 6 years, 4 months
4a. VA compensation: 100%
4b. Amount: $3,971.78
4c. Spouse and 1 child under 18
5. Projected CRSC percentage: 70%, 100%(I'd like to calculate both please)
6. Not eligible for any other retirement
7. No REDUX
8. No blended retirement

Again thank you for any inputs. Attached is my RAS as updated as possible.

-JP

23 FEB 2023, recieved my Appproval letter. 59 Business/89 Calendar days from submission.
 
23 FEB 2023, recieved my Appproval letter. 59 Business/89 Calendar days from submission.
Hello @DDM_Sgt

You said:
1. Gross Pay: $1,205
1a. Yes, I did recieve a DoD disability retirement
2. DoD percentage: 70%

Comments:
1205/70% = 1721.43 average high three base pay

The current rate for an E1 is 1,917.60. Are you sure your gross pay on your CURRENT DFAS RAS is $1205 (Gross would be the first item on the left of your RAS)? It seems unlikely with 6 years, 4 months active duty.
Even though you retired long ago, a DFAS RAS is produced at least once annually due to COLA increases. It is useful since it includes previous COLA increases since retirement.

Also: Is the 6 yrs 4 months active duty equivalent and shown on your Retirement orders under DISABILITY RETIREMENT as such?

You also mentioned: "5. Projected CRSC percentage: 70%, 100%(I'd like to calculate both please)" Your CRSC cannot exceed the longevity portion of your retired pay; consequently, the actual amounts for 70% and 100% will not be a factor in what you receive.

Using your data that might be understated:
6.33 AD years x 2.5% = 15.83% longevity multiplier
1721.43 high three x 15.83% = 272.50 longevity portion of retired pay and CRSC maximum
Note: high three average base pay is the total of the highest 36 months of pay diviided by 36.

Ron

p.s.
I did not see an attached RAS
 
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What about that lawsuit that looks like was won. Noticing that 6 years language is being removed/changed…
I found nothing new regarding that decision, including plans by DFAS.

I suspect it is being reviewed by the attorneys at DFAS.

Ron
 
Hello @DDM_Sgt

You said:
1. Gross Pay: $1,205
1a. Yes, I did recieve a DoD disability retirement
2. DoD percentage: 70%

Comments:
1205/70% = 1721.43 average high three base pay

The current rate for an E1 is 1,917.60. Are you sure your gross pay on your CURRENT DFAS RAS is $1205 (Gross would be the first item on the left of your RAS)? It seems unlikely with 6 years, 4 months active duty.
Even though you retired long ago, a DFAS RAS is produced at least once annually due to COLA increases. It is useful since it includes previous COLA increases since retirement.

Also: Is the 6 yrs 4 months active duty equivalent and shown on your Retirement orders under DISABILITY RETIREMENT as such?

You also mentioned: "5. Projected CRSC percentage: 70%, 100%(I'd like to calculate both please)" Your CRSC cannot exceed the longevity portion of your retired pay; consequently, the actual amounts for 70% and 100% will not be a factor in what you receive.

Using your data that might be understated:
6.33 AD years x 2.5% = 15.83% longevity multiplier
1721.43 high three x 15.83% = 272.50 longevity portion of retired pay and CRSC maximum
Note: high three average base pay is the total of the highest 36 months of pay diviided by 36.

Ron

p.s.
I did not see an attache
I found nothing new regarding that decision, including plans by DFAS.

I suspect it is being reviewed by the attorneys at DFAS.

Ron

So kinda confused here. Wouldn't it be more beneficial to just use the disability multipier for thos of us who med retired with not enough creditable yrs of service to receive a higher retirement pay.
To me I was in for 4 yrs and am in process of changing disability and am wondering why would I choose the regular multiplier if the disability % not to exceed 75% would give me a way higher retirement pay?
 
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