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New Easier to use crsc calculator
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Since you are a genius, will you please write calculator that multiplies an old high 3 estimate by the COLA for every year in a formula? The amounts of COLA change every year as you already know.
Why does the CRSC amount go down when the DOD goes up? I would get more CRSC with a 30% DOD than I would a with a 40%. Logic dictates the higher the DOD, the more CRSC a chapter 61 medical retiree would get. But the calculator says otherwise. Is this a mistake in the program?
one of the reasons i went with the current RAS on mypay vs high 3 is this exact issue. dod hasnt given raises soley on cola increases for retirees throughout the years. sometime congress has deviated and even rank based. going with the ras keeps it current without all that.
and if you knew me , genius would not be what you use to describe me
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i typically see this occur when people have residual retirement income(retirement left over from the offset). in these cases when dod retirement goes up, crsc goes down. not a glitch in the calc, but a flaw in dod policy. if you post your info, i could tell you exactly what is occuring
really? a response like that is not from someone wanting help. good day sir, and have fun with that. i hope you find someone to help you.
Sorry you took offense. But rather than repost all of the same information on this thread, I provided a link to a post about my situation and I was hoping you would look at the thread I started and answer my question there
no offense taken
Why are the CRSC calculations using these estimators wildly different from what get doing the math manually with the FMR? The difference that I see is that the reg states the CRSC award can't exceed the CRSC offset (dod med retirement minus longevity retirement). Basically that means you'll never get more than med retirement in total. I love the numbers these estimators give me, but I've used others that are dramatically less because of the CRSC offset rule. I sure I'm over thinking it and I'm not the brightest bulb. Thanks in advance!
could you please post an example? i am truly curious
19 yos
High 3 $6200
DOD disability 70%
CRSC 70%
VA 100%
Disability retirement $6200x70%=4340
Longevity retirement $6200x47.5%=$2945
CRSC Offset $4340-$2945=$1395
My understanding from the CFR is that the CRSC cannot exceed the CRSC offset $1395.
The estimators provided here say my CRCS would be $1760. Over 20% difference.
Attachment example B1 describes what I'm saying. Excerpt is from program guidance issued in 2004 found on militarypay.defense.gov
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The most you can get for CRSC is the amount you lost from the offset. So if your VA compensation is 4k and your longevity pension is 3k then the max you can get is 7k total between everything. So if your chapter 61 pension is 4.5k and your VA is 4k. Then you get 4k from the VA. $500 from your chapter 61 pension after offset. 7k max - 4.5k = 2.5k. That is the most you can get for CRSC. CRSC uses VA pay tables. So to fully recoup your monies and make you whole you would need to be approved for a CRSC% that is at or higher than 2.5k. If you got 100% for CRSC then you would certainly do that. So then you get 4k from the VA, .5k ($500) from the chapter 61 pension after VA offset & 2.5k from CRSC. Now you are being paid the max as you are getting all of your earned longevity pension and all of your VA compensation.
i receive crsc. i believe the calculator is right. if the crsc award is 70 percent, that is 1760. you are not capped by longevevity due to it being 2945 as you stated, and the other cap would be. i think the next cap is where your confusion is stemming from.
Crsc pay(1760)+residual retired pay(retired pay-va pay) or retired pay left over from offset cannot exceed longevity portion of your retirement which is the 2945, in your case the residual wont be enough for this to be an issue
for example : retired pay=4340
va pay= 4000
that leaves a residual of 340, so the other cap is longevity portion 2945-340=2,605. which is far above the 1760, so this is still what you get
remember crsc changed after 2008. dont know if that makes a difference here
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I medically retired rom the National Guard in September 2020 with 13 years and 10 months at 30%. I am collecting 100% VA pay at $4764. I was approved for 30% CRSC early January of 2025 and was receiving $679 per month. I appealed that rating and was approved in October for 100% CRSC. I logged in today to see my updated pay is $1024 at 100% CRSC. In the bottom of my CRSC pay it shows my retired pay before deductions is $3242. Should my new May be $3242 or is the $1024 they updated me to correct. I used the calculator in this thread and it gave me $3242.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Unless you were an O5+ somehow, I don't think your CRSC amount would be anywhere near $3k with under 14 years. To find out what your max would be, first find out how many retirement points you have. Then divide by 360 (retirement points / 360 = AD years).
Now multiply your AD years by 2.5% and then multiply by your high 3 average (AD years x 2.5% x $high-3).
This will give you your longevity retirement, which will be the maximum you can receive for CRSC.
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CRSC is strictly based on longevity %, not Ch 61 retirement %.
i believe based on the number most likely to be is the 1042 is the longevity portion of your retirement. that 3242 is im assuming your retired pay before va offset and not what you actually receive in addition to va. like a previous poster said you would have to be an 05 +