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Congratulations. That means your chapter 61 pension will be exempt from federal income taxes (as long as your DOD% is higher than longevity earned %) and that you will get preferential treatment in hiring for government jobs. That is what the V codes mean. CRSC is it's own thing and getting V1/V3 checked as yes doesn't guarantee that ou will get approved for CRSC.
You can apply for CRSC after you get out. Just go to your branches website for CRSC application. If you already have 20 years active duty in there may not be a benefit since CRSC helps claw back some of your chapter 61 pension that is lost due to the required VA offset. If you have 20 years AFS then there is no VA offset if your VA% is 50% or higher.
How long have you been in? Active duty or Guard/Reserve? If Guard/Reserve how many points and good years do you have? What is your estimated high 3? That is taking your last 36 months of base pay and adding them together and then dividing by 36 to get that number. What is your estimated VA%? What is your estimated CRSC% that you think you will get? Also, CRSC% equals VA %. So if you had 70% for PTSD by the VA and you think it will be approved for CRSC then it would be 70% and then you can use the VA disability calculators to see what that amount would be.
How would one know if their DOD % is higher than longevity earned %?? I'm sure I'm over thinking all of this but unsure.
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AFS i.e. years of service (unless reserve component, then it's total points / 360 = years of service) x 2.5% = longevity.
Thanks! I think I’m just confused about the whole thing. I know there are many factors and all that, but I’m lost on calculating chapter 61 retirement pay and what the VA offset is. The high three throws me off and sadly I’m not 100% of the calculation at this point. I thought I had it figured out but I guess not. lol
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So, without even seeing your grade (unless you were an officer, then it's a different beast all together), I can tell you that your VA compensation (not including dependents, if any) will start at $2,241.91/mo, which will completely offset any amount that you would see from the DoD. CRSC helps you get that offset back, it's not automatic, you have to apply for it AFTER your VA compensation kicks in. You start with DD Form 2860, for additional info there's a link in my signature to my group on FB if you are so inclined.
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CRSC due to length of service will cap you out at about $575 +/-. Mind you, this is a ROUGH est and depends if you get at least 40% if it's you alone or 30% with at least one dependent
Just received my 199. I'm trying to estimate retirement benefits with CRSC.
O-5 with 35 years service
3980 career points/ 1976 AD points
DOD 60% V1-V3, VA 100%
Also, once I reach my retirement age, will the higher amount from the DOD permanent 60% remain? When does it go down?
O-5 with 35 years service
3980 career points/ 1976 AD points
DOD 60% V1-V3, VA 100%
Also, once I reach my retirement age, will the higher amount from the DOD permanent 60% remain? When does it go down?
Hello @Sev3n ,
Info needed for a CRSC estimate =
1. Average high three base pay (total of highest 36 months base pay divided by 36)
2. Active duty equivalent ( active duty time PLUS total creditable points divided by 360)
3. Approved DoD disability percentage
4. Approved VA percentage AND amount, plus show dependents by category and number
5. Any approved VA SMC ?
6. Expected CRSC percentage
7. Do you have a 20 year letter?
8. Were you in the Blended Retirement Program?
All the info requested above is needed.
Ron
Edited add, preliminary info.
a. Your disability retired pay wiil be 60% x average high three base pay
b. Your DoD disability retired pay will be reduced by the amount of your VA compensation. You keep any residual. You are not eligible for Concurrent Receipt (former CRDP) at this time.
c. Your CRSC will be the lesser / lower amount of
—longevity portion of retired pay
Or
—the amount for the approved CRSC percentage using the VA comp tankes
d. Any residual retired pay will reduce your CRSC ceiling.
Ron
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It doesn't go down UNLESS you decide to apply for reserve compo retirement at age 60 (unless eligible for early reserve retirement). One thing to be aware of: do NOT, I repeat: DO NOT elect to go with early reserve retirement IF you plan on depending on Tricare post-retirement! There currently is NOT an option to get Tricare Reserve Retirement at the cheap rate that kicks in at age 60 any earlier than age 60, so early reserve retirement Tricare coverage becomes the grey area retiree version which is quite expensive (think COBRA rates and you'd be close!). I retired at 50, was eligible for early reserve retirement at 52 1/2 and am waiting until 60 to switch to CRDP.
So, it behooves you to file for CRSC as soon as you are out and drawing VA compensation as @RonG states your DoD retirement is going to be offset by your VA compensation. Me? O-6 w/5400 retirement points/33 years of service. I went through IDES and was 70% DoD/100% VA, I am waiting it out until next year (age 60) to start drawing CRDP as mentioned above. If I was eligible for CRSC, it might have been a different discussion, but am not.
1. 952.25
2. 5.4 years
3. 60%
4. 80%, 2094.15, spouse only
5. N
6. 60
7. Y
8. N
I think I've got all this right
Sorry, it is not.
—average high three base pay is not the net; it is the gross BP high 36 total divided by 36
— Your active duty equivalent is XXX NUMBER OF YEARS AND MONTHS AD and to that number you add the result of total reserve points for retirement divided by 360. You might already have this info from your reserve unit.
Ron
Good evening
I was just medically retired. DA199 states I have 70% temporary disability rate. I only have 18 yrs 9mos of active duty but i have 23years of service giving me a 20 Year letter.
Am I entitled to my VA benefits and my full retirement pay with 70% times my last base pay (Method A) or will I just get the different the VA Benefits from my retirement pay. My retirement pay is a little greater than the VA Benefit payout. Am I just getting that difference in retirement pay from the army till I'm 60? I would have NEVER went along with the MEDBOARD. I was just 15 months from 20 active!!!!!!!!!! Also my I have 100% service related injuries but none of them were classed as combat related.
I was just medically retired. DA199 states I have 70% temporary disability rate. I only have 18 yrs 9mos of active duty but i have 23years of service giving me a 20 Year letter.
Am I entitled to my VA benefits and my full retirement pay with 70% times my last base pay (Method A) or will I just get the different the VA Benefits from my retirement pay. My retirement pay is a little greater than the VA Benefit payout. Am I just getting that difference in retirement pay from the army till I'm 60? I would have NEVER went along with the MEDBOARD. I was just 15 months from 20 active!!!!!!!!!! Also my I have 100% service related injuries but none of them were classed as combat related.
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I can't speak on the circumstances which led to your board, but some background as I worked IDES for seven years. It's not your decision if you want to do the board or not. Some providers *may* ask what you would like to do, but the decision to start the board starts with your provider. If you have conditions that do NOT meet Ch 3 AR 40-501 standards (P3/P4) or you had 4 temp profiles, the MEB is initiated. Now that is out of the way. Did you discuss any of this with your legal counsel? Did the PEBLO give you the contact for the attorney? I'm presuming you're already out as there are mechanisms in place to help someone who is non-retainable/unfitting to be able to stay in (COAD/COAR).
As for what the PEB or VA did or did not deem to be combat-related has little to do with CRSC as the latter was written under a different set of laws. DD Form 2860 is the start of that process, the next part is looking at each and every VA-rated condition and see if you can make the causal relationship between condition(s) and combat-related event(s). That can make up some/most/all of what you would be eligible for based on longevity at 18y 9m (2.5% x 18.75 x high-36) + your VA compensation, all non-taxable for the rest of your life. If you do max out for CRSC, going to CMRP (reserve compo) at age 60 is a moot point since you're effectively will be getting it from day 1. Consider it a pro-rated version of CMRP.
You really should have fought to stay until 20 active years. You will have the VA offset until you reach the age to use your 20 year letter. Your only hope now is that you qualify for CRSC and that the % is high enough to recoup the money lost due to the VA offset.
This is why I tell everyone to not trust the system. The system is just a way to an end result. In your situation it would have been better to apply for COAD or even being found fit for duty. If you don't get CRSC or enough CRSC you are going to miss out on a ton of income from now until age 60!
Also, Sounds like you are TDRL. The lower your DOD% the more you will get screwed financially if you can't recoup all the money lost via CRSC. So make sure to keep everything steady to ensure your 70% TDRL turns into 70% PDRL.
Or would there be merit in Kbeasy having his TDRL reexamination, claim he's totally fine (may be harder said than done), and trying to get back on active duty to finish is 20 years?
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It has happened and under AR 600-8-19 ch 1-21 could return at their rank on their last day before retirement. There are also standby promotion boards if they were promoted on their first day of retirement. At 70% and I'm going to presume for BH-related, it'll be a hard sell, not impossible though.
Too risky for my blood. What if they change it to 30% PDRL? Also, the soldier should know by then where they stand via CRSC. If they get a high enough CRSC% there would be no negative impact on retiring early. My wife lucked out as she had 17 AFS as AGR soldier. She had 20 good years with a 20 year letter. However, she was approved for 80% CRSC and so she maxed out CRSC with $1,500 a month in compensation so that she will not need to rely on her 20 year letter at age 60.
Since she was found to have a condition combat related making her chapter 61 pension exempt it helped offset the loss of potential income that she would have earned by serving 3 more years to reach 20 AFS. CRSC is an amazing benefit for chapter 61 retirees with less than 20 AFS. For the rest its a nice tax free bump if their CRSC amount is close to or even to their VA compensation.
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