Hello,hey ron looking for some assistance
mypay ras 1620
9 years 10 months 3 days
Approved crsc 10%
married spouse 3 children under 18
Re-up for this post as I was approved for the CRSC program and paid with both the monthly and back pay portion. My new question now is pertaining the rate increase from 90- 100% disabled with the VA, Do I need to resubmit my CRSC paperwork or will this be automatically done on its own and with my new rating changes? Is it possible to to get the updated figures. Thanks in advance and hope everyone is doing well.
Army Medical retirement 30%
8.5 Years active
VA comp 100 % with wife no kids
CRSC rating 60%
Permanent retirement with benefits and full VA waiver.
Ron, once again thank you so much for taking your valuable time and patience in explaining this elusive “secret” that AFPC and DFAS could not explain in layman terms.Hello @Ken ,
RE: "The part I do not understand is an application for RC retirement? I have my medical retirement orders and DD214 indicating retirement based on disability from 2013. I know this issue is not unique to me but still can't wrap my head around why I cannot get an answer from my service branch."--Ken
Comments: Your medical retirement does not qualify you for CRDP. You do not have 20 years AD. You become eligible for RC retirement upon reaching the required retirement age (~60). Your RC retirement plus having 50% or more in VA approved disabilities, would qualify you for CRDP. One does not gain approval for a RC retirement without an application for it.
Reference: DoD 7000.14-R Financial Management Regulation Volume 7B, Chapter 64
640203. Physical Disability Retirement Members retired for physical disability who have less than 20 years of service creditable for the purposes of computing retired pay are not eligible for CRDP, unless they have 20 years of service for determining entitlement to non-regular (reserve) retired pay and are otherwise eligible for such reserve retired pay.
640204. Non-Regular Retired Pay Members eligible for retirement for non-regular service are not eligible to receive CRDP until they reach retirement age and have applied for and have become entitled to receive retired pay.
Note: Non-Regular = RC/NG
I am not a Chapter 61 retiree nor have I served in the USAF; therefore, I am not familiar with the precise steps in the RC retirement process.
All Reserve/NG/Regular retirements require an application for retirement. I submitted one in 1991 for my regular retirement from the Army after 20+ years of AD.
There is not a process in place that automatically transfers one from a disability retirement to a RC retirement; consequently, an application is required. Once your reserve retirement is approved and you are being paid for it, the following will apply:
--Your disability retirement percentage can still be used as the multiplier for retired pay if if is higher than the percentage determined by active duty equivalent years and months x 2.5% (= longevity multiplier) x average high three base pay for retirement.
--Your retired pay will be reduced by the amount of the VA compensation you receive,. You get to keep and residual (left over) retired pay from the reduction/waiver.
--CRDP will restore some of the waived/reduced retired pay not to exceed the longevity portion of retired pay.
--The combination of your residual retired pay (if any) combined with the CRDP cannot exceed the longevity portion of retired pay.
Special Rules for Chapter 61 Disability Retirees: Members retired for disability under Chapter 61 of title 10 United States Code may be entitled to CRDP only if they have at least 20 years of service qualifying for regular or reserve retirement. Additionally, any disability retired pay that is in excess of retired pay to which that member would be otherwise entitled (i.e., for years of service) remains subject to offset and may not be restored under the CRDP program. --->LINK to reference
You must be eligible for retired pay to qualify for CRDP. If you were placed on a disability retirement, but would be eligible for military retired pay in the absence of the disability, you may be entitled to receive CRDP.
Under these rules, you may be entitled to CRDP if…
- you are a regular retiree with a VA disability rating of 50 percent or greater.
- you are a reserve retiree with 20 qualifying years of service, who has a VA disability rating of 50 percent or greater and who has reached retirement age. (In most cases the retirement age for reservists is 60, but certain reserve retirees may be eligible before they turn 60. If you are a member of the Ready Reserve, your retirement age can be reduced below age 60 by three months for each 90 days of active service you have performed during a fiscal year.)
- you are retired under Temporary Early Retirement Act (TERA) and have a VA disability rating of 50 percent or greater.
- you are a disability retiree who earned entitlement to retired pay under any provision of law other than solely by disability, and you have a VA disability rating of 50 percent or greater. You might become eligible for CRDP at the time you would have become eligible for retired pay.
Air Reserve Personnel Center
Retirements link: CLICK HERE <---
Submit your questions to the AF this LINK <---
If the service member has other questions about retirement, the service member should contact the Total Force Service Center at 1-800-525-0102
Applying for retirement pay begins by submitting an application through the Virtual Personnel Center, vPC. Individuals approaching their Retirement pay effective date (60th birthday or reduced retirement pay age) should submit an application four months prior to this date.
The DD Form 2656 should be filled out and submitted no earlier than 4 months and no later than 30 days before your 60th birthday.
Learn about the Retirement Application Process (how-to video).
Electronically Submit Your Retirement Application via myPers OR
Mail Your Retirement Application to:
HQ ARPC / DPTTR
18420 E. SILVER CREEK AVE
BLDG 390, MS68
BUCKLEY AFB, CO
Tried the formula myself and came up with a different amount then my PEBLO. When asked about it, he stated just wait until I hear from DFAS. To me, that’s like an 8 year old waiting until January 1st to open a Christmas present. Any help/estimate from you would be greatly appreciated.
High 3 average is $8430
36 years Reserve & Active duty (5019 points = 13.75 years). Currently a reservist.
VA rating 100% with spouse
Retirement age reduced 19 months due to combat deployments.
Hello @Machone85Hi Ron, hope you could help me out.
I recently was place on the PRDL and am trying to determine what my pay will look like. I retire next week and will submit my CRCS the day of so it is yet unknown. My details are as follows:
DoD rating: 70% (Combat related)
VA Rating w/Child: $2,077 (70% is combat related by VA)
High 36: $7,073
Active Service: 11.8 years
thanks for your help Sir.
Thank you Sir, much appreciated. I determined my high 36 by using the individual 2017-2020 pay charts according to my length of service for the associated month’s pay. Is that the appropriate method to determine the high 36?Hello @Machone85
Estimate without having an approved CRSC rating.
1, High three (which is the total of the highest 36 months of base pay divided by 36) 7073 x 70% DoD = 4951.10 retired pay
2. 4951.10 minus 2077 VA amount = 2874.10 residual retired pay you keep (before I continue...your residual retired pay is so large that I doubt you will receive any CRSC)
3. 11.8 AD (which is not 11 years and 8 months) x 2.5% = 29.50% longevity multiplier
4. 7073 x 29.50% = 2086,54 longevity portion of retired pay. CRSC cannot exceed the dollar amount of the longevity portion of retired pay. The combination of CRSC plus residual retired pay cannot exceed the longevity portion of retired pay...as well.
Using the info you provided, you will receive each month:
--VA comp = 2077
--DFAS residual retired pay = 2874.10 residual retired pay
If your "high three" was reported incorrectly, please let me know. It is is the total of the highest 36 months of base pay divided by 36.
It is usually the total of the last 36 months of pay...divided by 36.Thank you Sir, much appreciated. I determined my high 36 by using the individual 2017-2020 pay charts according to my length of service for the associated month’s pay. Is that the appropriate method to determine the high 36?