CRSC timeline application

Hello,

Info provided:

1.--Average high three for basic pay: $3,983.92 (Estimated Retired Pay Base)
2.--DoD disability percentage: 100% PDRL
3. --Active duty years and months 16 Years & 9 Months
4. --VA compensation: 100%; SMC-S w/ Spouse
5.--Projected or approved CRSC percentage by your service: 100%
6.--Whether you qualify for another type retirement and whether you transitioned to the blended retirement system: Not qualified
7.--Did you receive a REDUX/CSB payment? No
8.--Did you accept the Blended Retirement program option? No

3697.28 used for SMC-S

Estimate using your info:

a. 3983.92 x 75% = 2987.94 retired pay
b. Retired pay reduced to zero by amount of VA comp
c. 16.75 active duty years x 2.5% = 41.88% longevity multiplier
d. 3983.92 x 41.88% = 1668.47 = longevity portion of retired pay (CRSC ceiling in this case)
e. CRSC = 1668.47 plus you will receive your VA compensation

Note: AD equivalent is often incorrectly reported. The AD equivalent number of years and months is shown on your retirement orders, 3/4 down on first page, as "Disability Retirement."

Ron
 
RonG said:
Hello,

Info provided:

1.--Average high three for basic pay: $3,983.92 (Estimated Retired Pay Base)
2.--DoD disability percentage: 100% PDRL
3. --Active duty years and months 16 Years & 9 Months
4. --VA compensation: 100%; SMC-S w/ Spouse
5.--Projected or approved CRSC percentage by your service: 100%
6.--Whether you qualify for another type retirement and whether you transitioned to the blended retirement system: Not qualified
7.--Did you receive a REDUX/CSB payment? No
8.--Did you accept the Blended Retirement program option? No

3697.28 used for SMC-S

Estimate using your info:

a. 3983.92 x 75% = 2987.94 retired pay
b. Retired pay reduced to zero by amount of VA comp
c. 16.75 active duty years x 2.5% = 41.88% longevity multiplier
d. 3983.92 x 41.88% = 1668.47 = longevity portion of retired pay (CRSC ceiling in this case)
e. CRSC = 1668.47 plus you will receive your VA compensation

Note: AD equivalent is often incorrectly reported. The AD equivalent number of years and months is shown on your retirement orders, 3/4 down on first page, as "Disability Retirement."

Ron
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Thank you Ron
 
RonG said:
Hello,

Info provided:

1.--Average high three for basic pay: $3,983.92 (Estimated Retired Pay Base)
2.--DoD disability percentage: 100% PDRL
3. --Active duty years and months 16 Years & 9 Months
4. --VA compensation: 100%; SMC-S w/ Spouse
5.--Projected or approved CRSC percentage by your service: 100%
6.--Whether you qualify for another type retirement and whether you transitioned to the blended retirement system: Not qualified
7.--Did you receive a REDUX/CSB payment? No
8.--Did you accept the Blended Retirement program option? No

3697.28 used for SMC-S

Estimate using your info:

a. 3983.92 x 75% = 2987.94 retired pay
b. Retired pay reduced to zero by amount of VA comp
c. 16.75 active duty years x 2.5% = 41.88% longevity multiplier
d. 3983.92 x 41.88% = 1668.47 = longevity portion of retired pay (CRSC ceiling in this case)
e. CRSC = 1668.47 plus you will receive your VA compensation

Note: AD equivalent is often incorrectly reported. The AD equivalent number of years and months is shown on your retirement orders, 3/4 down on first page, as "Disability Retirement."

Ron
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@JRod79 Congrats, Is it better to attach a buddy letters when submitting a CRSC package?
 
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Hello @jobey ,

Recommend you use the CRSC application instructions provided by your service to ensure you submit all that is needed.
I don’t know what is in a med board packet (which might be adequate for CRSC), but I do know what is included as necessary documentation for a CRSC application is in the guidelines for your service.

Incidentally, many retirees who receive CRSC did not receive a disability retirement; I am one of them.

See the linked info within this document:
A Supplement to CRSC Information <——

Ron
 
JRod79 said:
No more than 30 days. You will likely receive your retro pay first (If any) and will shortly begin to receive your usual amount.
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JRod: in your experience did you receive your back pay before your first payment for CRSC?
 
JRod79 said:
Apparently it's easier to pay out backpay than starting the normal cycle of monthly payments.
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A major factor is timing.

When each service had its own finance center (Army's was in Indianapolis), the cut-off for processing pay documents for AD soldiers was the 21st. If we got it into the system on/or before the 21st, it would affect the pay at the end of the month (about ten days later). If the processing occurred later than the 21st, the pay would not show up until the month following at EOM. It is my understanding that the DFAS processing is similar.

"Back pay" is/are out of cycle payments and not restricted by a needed deadline.

Ron
 
JRod79 said:
Apparently it's easier to pay out backpay than starting the normal cycle of monthly payments.
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Well I hope in my case this to be true. Dfas just notified me my first CRSC payment will be on Dec 1 hopefully within a few days of that we will have retro deposit.
 
JRod79 said:
I did receive my back pay first
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Hey Ron G. Correct me if I am wrong, but I am medically retired and chose VA pay instead. Now the total amount of my monthly CRSC Awarded monthly amount cannot be more than the amount of longevity retirement pay?

I was just approved for a Reconsideration, a 70% to now am 80% rate.
 
gmatt13b said:
Hey Ron G. Correct me if I am wrong, but I am medically retired and chose VA pay instead. Now the total amount of my monthly CRSC Awarded monthly amount cannot be more than the amount of longevity retirement pay?

I was just approved for a Reconsideration, a 70% to now am 80% rate.
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Hello @gmatt13b

You did not choose VA compensation over retired pay ; instead, you agreed to waive retired pay dollar for dollar in the amount of VA compensation received. Sometimes there is residual retired pay remaining due to the Retired Pay being higher. CRSC can replace some or all of the waived/reduced/offset retired pay.

I am going to adjust one of your sentences: "Now The total amount of my monthly CRSC Awarded monthly amount cannot be more than the amount of longevity retirement pay EVER." It also can be less.

Generally, the amount of CRSC for a CH 61 retiree with less than 20 years AD is
the lesser of
--the longevity portion of retired pay
or
--the amount of the approved CRSC percentage which is found in the VA compensation table.

Additionally, the combination of CRSC and residual (left over) retired pay cannot exceed the longevity portion of retired pay.

Ron
 
RonG said:
Generally, the amount of CRSC for a CH 61 retiree with less than 20 years AD is
the lesser of
--the longevity portion of retired pay
or
--the amount of the approved CRSC percentage which is found in the VA compensation table.

Additionally, the combination of CRSC and residual (left over) retired pay cannot exceed the longevity portion of retired pay.

Ron
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Thanks Ron,

You are good!

Here is your estimate a year or two ago for my CRSC Claim,

ESTIMATE:
a. (4834.22 x 0.70) = 3383.95 retired pay; this is reduced to zero by the amount of VA compensation, 3437; no residual retired pay.
b. (16.17 AD x 0.025) = 40.43% longevity multiplier
c. (4834.22 x 0.4043) = 1954.48 longevity portion of retired pay
d. CRSC 70% with spouse & 2 children under 18: (1,609.71 + 59) = 1668.71
e. Your CRSC is the same as in the first computation = 1668.71 based on the information you provided.

If I understand you correctly, My CRSC cannot be more than c. $1954.48?
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Reply to @gmatt13b

Yes and of course, your CRSC in that old computation is 1668.71 based on the information you provided.

You mentioned, "I was just approved for a Reconsideration, a 70% to now am 80% rate."
CRSC 80% with spouse & 2 children under 18: (1,922.35 + 69) = 1991.35
The CRSC payable by DFAS is 1954.48 per your info.

Ron

Note: Any COLA increases since that old estimate would increase some amounts. Also, there is a COLA increase of 5.9% that is effective 1 December 2021 and the payments for 1-31 December will be increased in most cases.
 
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