TDRL

This thread is dedicated to special issues regarding the Temporary Disabled Retired List.
 
Like most things in this system, it is all about having good evidence.

Letters from commander or superiors documenting your being there and the circumstances, flight logs, AAR's, etc. That type of stuff would help getting you to the exposure part.

I would also think it would be helpful getting evidence of symptoms soon thereafter (sick call slips, statements from others documenting symptoms, LODs, etc.). Or perhaps an opinion letter from a pulmonologist (or other MD if you can't find a respiratory specialist) stating an opinion that your condition was caused by the exposure.

If you have an LOD that states your condition was caused by flying over fumes, I think you may have enough evidence right there. Of course, the question then becomes if they believe these facts equals "combat-related." If the facts are not in dispute, then it is a legal argument that you are disagreeing about.

Best of luck!

Jason,

Thank you so much for the advice. We took it and got the letters that you recommended. We found out today that they have over turned their finding of it not being combat related and have put it as combat related. We got letters from my old company commander, battalion commander, the doctor, and many reports about the sulfur fires. I was scheduled to go to Fort Sam Houston late August but now don't have to. I just wanted to say THANK YOU and show how the info really does work. Thanks again

KSBCDE
 
ksbcde,

That is great news! Congratulations. It is great to hear when things work out well and I am glad the information was helpful.
 
TDRL is calcuated as EITHER a minimum of 50% times retired base pay OR his actual disability rating times retired base pay.



If otherwise eligible for CRSC, he will receive both, but with offset of the amounts above his 2.5% times years of service times retired base pay.

Not sure if this gets you lunch (there is a partial offset), but I would argue that it should as the treatment of TDRL is the same as PDRL.
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So when you say Base Pay is that your base pay at seperation or base pay when the board was submitted??
 
Remember, retired base pay is the average of the last 36 months of base pay, calculated from your last active duty pay date (and the previous 35 months).
 
Greetings

Greetings Ladies or Gents,

A little long, but good read...

Allow me to first introduce myself. My name is Jason Yu, USMC, served from 2003-2006, awarded 30% TDRL on Dec 1, 2006 and seperated from the Corps. I was diagnosed with a rare disorder called "Myasthenia Gravis", which is a neuro-muscler disorder, try not to ask, because I would need at least a PhD to explain the entire thing. Anyhow, Navy/Marine Corps. awarded me 30% and the VA gave me 50%.

June 15th, 2008. I had my first evaluation at Bethesda Naval Center. I waited a year for the chance to get back into the Corps. As my goal was to be found fit for duty. I guess being a Marine, even after you get out of the service, you're still treated with respect and welcomed without a question. The Marines down there took extremely care of me with lodging, meal, and even endorsed my orders. However, what made me wanted to come back in the most was seeing once again injured and wounded Marines, it's hard to explain, because I spent a year in Naval Hospital San Diego, so I know. Anyhow, I saw the doctor, sat with him for about 30 minutes just chatting on how my life is and how I am doing with my diagnoses. Well, I explained the doctor that I wish to be found fit and reenlist into the reserves. I even had to show him my NYPD ID and shield to proof to him that I am every bit capable to handling hardship work. For a minute, my chances of getting back in was great. As even the doctor said "I am going to take your disability away", "please take it", I said.

A few days later since that day, I received a phone call from the PEBLO office. I was advise what the doctor had written and ready to be forward to Washington for evaluation. Doctor note was, contiune on TDRL, but shown great improvement and not on any medication. After she said that, them words hit me like a freight train, killing my dream of ever getting back into the Corps, at least for another 18 months.

I was depressed for a few days, but life goes on. Still doing my job, chasing drug dealers, going to cops 85 (officers need assistings), and writing pointless summons...

On 17th of July, I received a certified mail from the PEB. I wasn't surpised, because I know what I was going to get already. Well, it turned out, it's more than I expected. I was transferred from TDRL to PDRL with only 30%. Damn, I said, because PDRL means my chance of ever going back into the Corps. are slim to none. I wrote a letter hoping to be found fit or at least transfer back on TDRL and fax it right back to the PEB. At this point, my hope were pretty much 50/50. I can't lose, because even if I get back on TDRL, I would still have to wait another 18 months to be evaluated again. So, TDRL or PDRL makes no differences at that point.

On 1st of Aug, I received another certified mail from PEB. I was so disappointed with the first one, I didn't even bother opening it till a day later. When I opened the letter, I was confused to the point that I had to call the number in the letter to ask what does this letter mean. "Fit to return from Temporary Retirement"?!? The lady told me, you are found fit for duty again, and if you accept, the Marine Corps will issue you orders to return to duty. HOLY SH!T, for real? Great, thanks. My next phone call was to a recruiter that I know, fax him my fit for duty paperwork, and await for a MEPS physical.

To sum it up, I gone from TDRL to PDRL, to Fit for duty. The board went against what my doctor wrote.
 
Congrats. Hope all works out and the recruiter gets you back in before another board or doc submits something.

Break... I hear you very loud, hard to take/hear about just one more troop injured or killed. I stray away from the flippin news most of the time, but got a short cut to the numbers that I check almost daily to see how we're doing.
 
Ok hope to not sound dumb here.

I just recieved my findings of 40% TDRL from the Navy/Marine Corp PEB.

So what happens now?

What do I have too look forward too the next few years?


How long before I get my seperation date? ( I know no one can know for sure, but a ballpark figure?)

thanks
 
Ladies and Gents (Marines and Sailors),

Unfortunately, I can give you specifics of who I am, but I will say this....I work within the system and I hope to be able to answer some of the questions and concerns that I have read on this forum. Before I go any further, let me say that I am glad that someone has taken the time and effort to put something out here that is intended to educate our hero's!
As far as the TDRL is concerned, you will be required to have a re-evaluation at 18 month intervals. Those will be sent to the PEB to see if your condition is stable...If so, you will either be found FIT from the TDRL of UNTI to seperated or transferred to the PDRL.
 
I have a question about follow on care while on TDRL. I know the 18 month evaluations are manditory of you'll be taken off the list but for instance: I was referred to a civilian doctor in Milwakee, Wi. and they have me going back every 3-4 months to be re-evaluated for minimum of 2 years at which time they will decide if more surgury needs to be done...I am taking a job in St Louis and Im not going to have my arm cut on anymore...My question is if i stop going to Wi will this effect my being on TDRL?
 
swimmer15,

No, it should not matter. The only issue I would see is if it equated to "non-compliance" but this would have more to do with the treatment rather than the location. If you need treatment, use your TriCare and get a referral to wherever you move. If your decision to forgo surgery is reasonable, it will not matter. At the TDRL re-eval, they will look at your current function.

I hope this was clear and helpful. If you have any follow-up questions, please post them. Best of luck in St. Louis!
 
Well I am officially on TDRL on the 29th of this month and I called my admin today to inquire how I get a new retiree ID card when I am placed on TDRL on the 29th because I need to get Tri-Care for retiree and can't do that until I have a new ID card and DEERS is updated. They told me too just go to the local ANG base and go to the ID section and they should just give me a new ID card because DEERS will already be updated with my retired information when I get discharged.
I figuredI would get some orders or something to show I was on TDRL so I could get the nw ID card.
Does this sound right?

Also, correct me if I am wrong but I thought I was suppose to sign my DD214. They told me that district will send my unit a copy of my DD214 and my unit verifies it and sends it back without me even looking at it then it is mailed too me at my home of record. Does that sound correct?
Is this because I am going on TDRL?

What shall I do?
 
sfxer02,

I received a copy of my orders from my unit military personnel flight or MPF; then I went to the ID card section and presented them with a copy of my TDRL orders. Next, they made the TDRL ID card.

I did not sign my DD214. In block 22 on the form (signature of member being seperated), mine states "member is not available to sign". The DD214 was mailed to my home of record in DEERS.

I was able to view my DD214 in vMPF and make corrects before it was considered official. I hope this helps.
 
sfxer02,

I received a copy of my orders from my unit military personnel flight or MPF; then I went to the ID card section and presented them with a copy of my TDRL orders. Next, they made the TDRL ID card.

I did not sign my DD214. In block 22 on the form (signature of member being seperated), mine states "member is not available to sign". The DD214 was mailed to my home of record in DEERS.

I was able to view my DD214 in vMPF and make corrects before it was considered official. I hope this helps.

Yeah I was told that as well about not being available to sign (thats crap)

As far as vMPF I think that is Air Force thing, us jarheads are not that hi-tech....:rolleyes:


When I asked about orders to TDRL, she kinda sounded like duuuudaduuuh, she didn't know. I will do some more inquiring.

How long did it take for you to recieve you first TDRL pay check?
I am hoping Nov 1 but am hearng probably Dec 1...I am on TDRL 29th of this month

thanks
 
How long did it take you to get your TDRL orders after you signed?

I just signed the TDRL and now I'm waiting---I asked my PEBLO on Monday but I still haven't heard back...My enlistment is up. I'm on orders until 30 Sep, but I'm not sure I'm gonna have the TDRL stuff set up by then? Thoughts.

Chinook
 
Im in the Marine Corp so might be different for you if your in a different service.

From the day I signed my PEB findings till I had orders was about 3 weeks and they set my EAS out 2-3 weeks for out-processing from that......

My EAS is the 29th of this month and I signed my PEB findings August 12th.

good luck
 
sfxer02,

My effective TDRL date was 23 JUL 08. I received my first TDRL pay on 1 Sep 08. I survived by selling leave and my spouse retired pay.


Chinook,

After I accepted the findings, I think it only took a couple of weeks before I received my TDRL orders.
 
sfxer02,

My effective TDRL date was 23 JUL 08. I received my first TDRL pay on 1 Sep 08. I survived by selling leave and my spouse retired pay.


Chinook,

After I accepted the findings, I think it only took a couple of weeks before I received my TDRL orders.


Thanks purple
 
sfxer02,

I survived by selling leave and my spouse retired pay.


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I am selling back leave and still have my last paycheck coming as well

how long after your EAS did you recieve your last paycheck with sold back leave?

sorry to bombard you with questions....:p
 
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